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To: PieterCasparzen

Your statement that “it’s as if the entire nation is pretty much openly run by organized crime” echoes the opinion of a Ukrainian missionary that is associated with my church.

He insisted forcefully earlier this week that the American media had not told the full story, that this conflict is not about a trade agreement with the EU or Russia, but rather about a people fed up with corruption and rigged elections. The trade issue was just a spark, not the fire.

His first-hand account of the ongoing protest since November was both thrilling and chilling. Regardless of who is pulling the strings, I have utmost respect for the people of the Ukraine who have sustained this effort for months under brutal conditions. For months, they maintained supply lines to those camped in bitter cold and sang the national anthem en masse, on the hour, day and night.

Video from Tuesday, during the violence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6ypE3G_pgE

May good prevail, because other former Soviet states are watching.


8 posted on 02/22/2014 9:34:21 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah
He insisted forcefully earlier this week that the American media had not told the full story, that this conflict is not about a trade agreement with the EU or Russia, but rather about a people fed up with corruption and rigged elections. The trade issue was just a spark, not the fire.

IMHO...this is the view from the financial elites' (nwo) seat:

This was the direction things were going. Once you break pieces off the USSR, now they will be able to individually get closer to Europe. Only ethnic Russians would have the first instinct of staying close to Russia after independence.

The corruption of the oligarchs was an excellent thing for those who wanted to wait until the situation "ripened" and then move U to the EU.

The ripening period was a phase of "wild west". State-owned things are sold off to insiders - billions are made in this wild west mode. Keep the law out of the way of this "progress"; the competition will be nutso, actually violent, as men fight for lucrative monopolies. They skate on taxes, gov't doesn't spend much, so it doesn't need much. The big concern for foreign direct investment (FDI) is am I gonna be ripped off. So its a high risk high reward scenario. No one much trusts their government, they're all crooks.

Eventually, the monopolies are all about in place. Trade with other countries enables more profits; bad conditions for the working folks means cheap labor. Once the growth slows down, you've wrung out everything you can by having the country not doing much central banking. (their debt to GDP was about 70% at the end of 2012).

They knew the corruption would provide the impetus for the downtrodden population to push for change, when the time came.

Now that it's a "privatized" economy and billions have been earned, deals start being made with the new "oligarchs". The country will be transformed to not be the wild west so much. More legal conformance; more business legitimacy and stability. FDI can then increase. Gov't can start spending and taxing. It can be turned into a "little UK" or "little France", like Greece.

US/EU has been working with the oligarchs all along. The only people who didn't know this was coming were the general public who were not part of the activist unions, groups, etc.

The EU deal was floated and the guy didn't sign. The businesses are ready to make the switch. The opposition leaders already know the plan - this is when we do a Ukraine spring. They make a few calls, the word goes out - everybody's got their helmets and bottles ready. They have that great motivator - the agony of living under those darned oligarchs. Oops, I meant President.
14 posted on 02/22/2014 10:09:50 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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