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Analysis of the top 10 Linux operating systems
Everyday Linux User ^ | 10 February 2014 | Gary Newell

Posted on 02/11/2014 4:52:32 AM PST by ShadowAce

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To: Bikkuri

Red Hat bought out CentOS. Supposedly, they’ll keep releasing CentOS, but I don’t know whether the quality will be the same.

Fortunately, CentOS isn’t the only game in town. Scientific Linux, which is developed by leading scientific laboratories, is virtually identical to CentOS. I use it at work on most of our servers and it does just fine.


101 posted on 02/11/2014 5:22:55 PM PST by Cato in PA (Smile, you're on NSA camera!)
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To: PieterCasparzen; ShadowAce; Bikkuri
>>> Red Hat and CentOS are both considered to be server OSes. This list is really about the desktop. And yes--I do know that you can ue RH and Cent as your desktop. :D

>> RedHat is pay to use.. that is what separates it :p

> I have CentOS on my dell netbook, 1G ram, tiny dual core Atom processor. Works fine,...

Well, yeah, RedHat is pay to play, but it spawned the free Fedora and CentOS derivatives, so considering them...

I used RedHat (7.1) as my work desktop on an engineering workstation starting in 2002, then Fedora Core 4 as my desktop at work and at home from about 2004 until the present, and added CentOS (which I'd used as a server OS since 2007) about a year ago. CentOS is now my primary personal desktop at work.

In short, CentOS is an awesomely productive personal desktop environment. I get tons of things done in it, every day. More stable than Fedora, by the way, which matters. And at work I'm surrounded by Ubuntu machines, which are good, but don't seem to have the crisp clarity of CentOS. The guys who were using Ubuntu switched to Windows 7; more productive for them. Okay.

I guess some of it is that I'm grossed out when a perfectly good desktop design gets screwed with so as to look like another one. It seems like everybody -- the sleeker Linux distros and Windows Vista/7/8 at least -- is trying to look like Mac OS X.

That's kind of a shame... even though I like OS X a lot, there are lots of ways to skin a cat, OS X being only one of them, and it has its flaws. I'm using OS X at the moment to FReep tonight... and it pains me to see other perfectly good OSes ape-ing it, and not doing as well.

And all the above is to be taken merely as MHO, YMMV and probably will.

102 posted on 02/11/2014 5:46:50 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: Cato in PA

Sorry, fell asleep at the swwirch (literally... was playing music online and fell asleep while doing it)... kept hearing strange noise while asleep... (headphones near my sleeping head).. You have a link for “Scientific”? First I’ve heard of it. could Google it, but real weary of using Google :p


103 posted on 02/11/2014 7:35:02 PM PST by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
I need a new distro.

Me too. Time to upgrade the Yggdrasil box.

104 posted on 02/11/2014 7:43:29 PM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Wow, lots of info there, and appreciated..

Personally, I buy (AMD) ‘overclocking’ hardware, yet I never overclock... Hardware lasts A LOT longer...
Obviously (to me at least), Brand names down’t always count :/ one of the issues I had that made me lose more than 4 Terra of encrypted data was/were 3 of my DDR3 sticks failed at almost all at the same time :/ (Corsair).. went from 16 gig to 4 gig instantly :(

If I were back in the states, I could go directly to the company, and they would be replaced.. sometimes getting an even better deal. BUT, being here in Japan, any “apology” for the failure is non-existant :p

Well, I have over-extended my text time... feel guilty as a dog getting a bone since I fell asleep on the keyboard while hot-mic (on a chat site)... one of these days I will KNOW not to go online after work :P (btw, came online after work after 12am here... found out there were no busses running.. and no $$$ for a taxi >.<. was a LONG walk home, about 6Km, what is that, about 4 miles?! with a LARGE amount of snow I haven’t seen in the 16 years I have been here.. darn “””””GLOBULL WARMING””””””).. :/


105 posted on 02/11/2014 7:58:55 PM PST by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: ShadowAce

btw... hven’t seen fanboiz from any side jump in (very surprized), but it helps to abuse the “Caucus” title so they don’t jump in ;^)


106 posted on 02/11/2014 8:00:53 PM PST by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: dayglored

Great summarization ;) and, btw (hated Fortran and Cobald >.< ... Pascal was much nicer :p)


107 posted on 02/11/2014 8:06:24 PM PST by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: Cato in PA
Red Hat bought out CentOS. Supposedly, they’ll keep releasing CentOS, but I don’t know whether the quality will be the same.

I spoke with Red Hat about it last week.

The plan is that Fedora is the community experimental product to release brand new versions, work out the kinks, go bleeding edge, etc. CentOS is going to be used as a staging platform, if you will, for RHEL. Not quite as bleeding edge as Fedora, but still experimenting with some new features for RHEL. RHEL is the rock-solid stable product meant for production use in business where uptime is required.

So picture CentOS as the product between Fedora and RHEL, and it still will not be officially supported by RH, like Fedora is not supported by Red Hat.

108 posted on 02/12/2014 4:17:20 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: beef
Time to upgrade the Yggdrasil box.

Wow--that's a flashback.

109 posted on 02/12/2014 4:19:20 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Thank you. Your points are all well taken.

My policy with any unix/Linux OS is to turn off all services and block all ports then selectively enable those that I need to use for that particular host. I also, even with WinBlows, block all automatic upgrades. I have been burned far too many times by ill-timed and ill-conceived upgrades.

I have/use Nmap extensively. It is a part of any side job I do. As I mentioned, in a past life I was a unix admin. I still have a few clients that I do server work for.

As far as CentOS 6. It’s not too bad, now, even at launch. I installed an early release for a client - and yes, I’ve had to fix it repeatedly.... but now it is fairly stable.


110 posted on 02/12/2014 6:40:27 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Bikkuri

Where? I need a big usb stick, but 64G are running nearly $40.


111 posted on 02/12/2014 6:55:40 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

Was on an endcap at a place called PcDepot... Not sure it would help much, it was here in Japan ;^)


112 posted on 02/12/2014 10:21:14 AM PST by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: Bikkuri

Yeah, sure. Here’s the page for Scientific Linux: https://www.scientificlinux.org/


113 posted on 02/12/2014 7:28:55 PM PST by Cato in PA (Smile, you're on NSA camera!)
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To: ShadowAce

Interesting. I never imagined they’d turn CentOS into something like that. Well, I guess Scientific Linux will become more important than ever for those of us looking for a verbatim clone of RHEL.

I’ll keep my eye on CentOS, though. It might turn out to be a nice change from EL’s monolithic nature.


114 posted on 02/12/2014 7:32:18 PM PST by Cato in PA (Smile, you're on NSA camera!)
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To: Bikkuri
I like Rhythmbox best

I don't use playlists. I just let it random walk through my 17422 songs. It's really easy to find what you want.

With as big as some of the other images were on this thread, I didn't think this would hurt much. :-)

115 posted on 02/12/2014 8:07:33 PM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: zeugma

Ty for that info... I had used it a few years ago.. It does look pretty much like what I need. Will get it installed to test it out ;^)


116 posted on 02/13/2014 6:44:30 AM PST by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: Bikkuri
Hope you like it. I've tried several different players, but I always seem to come back to rhythmbox. It's just so simple to use. The only problem I've had is that I had a devil of a time getting Christmas music out of my regular playlist. I had to move it to an entirely different directory branch to keep it from being added. There are still a few that sneak in, but I just skip to the next song when they come up and it's not December. :-). The ultimate in playlist management would be a regular expression like that. "if month <> dec; and $song = Christmas ; then skip". You'd have to be pretty religious about your ID3 tag management though.
117 posted on 02/13/2014 6:56:34 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: ShadowAce

I’ve learned a lot reading these posts, thank you. I am researching to make a switch to linux on one of our computers to get started in that direction. I have an old xp that we use to use for our business. We used quickbooks and ms office. I’m familiar with openoffice, we have that on our laptop. Are there bookkeeping programs available for linux? I’m not very literate computer-wise, so any help would be appreciated. Also any tutorials/articles to get me started. And how to explain it to my spouse who will have to learn a whole new system...


118 posted on 02/16/2014 7:42:58 PM PST by foundedonpurpose
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To: foundedonpurpose
I'm glad it's helping you out!

If you go here, there is a list of 100 OSS projects that can replace proprietary software. Items #51 - 55 are Financial software--with links.

Hope that helps you.

119 posted on 02/17/2014 4:07:51 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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