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1 posted on 11/25/2013 6:29:25 PM PST by Renfield
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 11/25/2013 6:29:45 PM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

No he is wrong. Camelot was the home of an Irish King from Boston. He was a killed by McOswald.


3 posted on 11/25/2013 6:35:34 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Renfield; SunkenCiv; Revolting cat!
Arthur was actually Arthur Mac Aedan, the sixth-century son of an ancient King of Scotland, whose Camelot was a marsh in Argyll.

A boggy swamp? That suits the Kennedy Legacy about right.

4 posted on 11/25/2013 6:35:56 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Renfield

‘Scots, wha hæ wi Wallace bled,
Scots, wham Bruce has aften led,
Welcome tæ yer gory bed,
Or tæ victorie


5 posted on 11/25/2013 6:44:07 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Renfield

lol


6 posted on 11/25/2013 6:44:35 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Renfield
as a Scottish man of the druidic “Old Way”, he was the last of his kind

I never knew Arthur was Druish.

7 posted on 11/25/2013 6:49:01 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Renfield

an island in the western seas of England?

isle of mann?


8 posted on 11/25/2013 6:52:07 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Renfield
whose Camelot was a marsh in Argyll

King of Swamp Castle: When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.

10 posted on 11/25/2013 6:54:21 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Renfield
Oh a new King Arthur interpretation and spanking new book to boot. I prefer the traditional one. Otoh, there is the introduction of the murky grassy gnome element in this tale— that troubles me. It just doesn't add up...
11 posted on 11/25/2013 6:58:43 PM PST by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: Renfield
"If it not Scottish, it's CRAP!"
12 posted on 11/25/2013 7:02:33 PM PST by Castlebar
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To: Renfield

Thanks for the post! What seems clear from all the legends and literature is that the one thing he was NOT was English. I’m guessing the Welsh side was the easiest locale for the English to accept (and later push) because they’d been the least ferocious in their hatred of the Sassenach.


14 posted on 11/25/2013 7:17:50 PM PST by Mach9
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To: Renfield

Nearly all the ancient kings are buried at Iona. As for Kilmartin Glen..I dont know, but, that was the area where the ancient kings ruled. These were the Picts, and the Scotty Irish kicked them out, eventually. The Picts simply vanished over a very short time. Lots of grave slabs over there that are really interesting to look at. Especially at Kilmartin.


15 posted on 11/25/2013 7:18:13 PM PST by crz
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To: Renfield

bttt


18 posted on 11/25/2013 9:14:00 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Renfield

Sounds interesting, BUT,

“Ardrey, an amateur historian who works as an advocate in Edinburgh”

If he was from France, Arthur would be French, Italy, he would be Italian - I see some chauvanism here.

I think Arthur was a Romano-British Warlord “Dux Bellorum” (Chief of Battles)who fought the Saxons sometime after the Romans pulled out of Britain.

The name Arthur appears related to a Latin word for “bear”, Prior to his activities in the late 5th and early 6th Century, Arthur was a relatively rare name. After that time, every other Celt in Britain was naming his kids after him. I think the best sources are Nennius and Gildas.

Nevertheless, in my efforts to read as much as possible about the REAL Arthur, not the fantasy of Sir Thomas Mallory, I must read this book.


20 posted on 11/25/2013 11:41:21 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: Salamander; Darksheare
"Arthur was actually Arthur Mac Aedan,
the sixth-century son of an ancient King of Scotland,
whose Camelot was a marsh in Argyll."




But he married a woman
who had "huge tracts of land."


22 posted on 11/26/2013 6:00:37 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: humblegunner

Scots ping.


23 posted on 11/26/2013 6:23:35 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Renfield
Britons In USA In 6th Century - Shock Claim (Prince Madoc)
24 posted on 11/26/2013 8:04:17 AM PST by blam
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To: Renfield

"The trouble with Scotland is that it's full of Scots."

25 posted on 11/26/2013 8:16:56 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Renfield

"The trouble with Scotland is that it's full of Scots."

26 posted on 11/26/2013 8:18:22 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Renfield

I believe that “Arthur” is a conflation of two kings:

When the usurper to the throne, John I, exiled the boy-king Arthur from Island of Great Britain to the Continental half of the Kingdom of Britain, the Continental subjects likened him to a mythical warlord from centuries earlier.

But it is this latter Arthur under whom knights reconquered the City of Barcelona, defeated the Black Knights and reclaimed the Holy Grail. And this is why it is from the French from whom we receive such written stories, such as La Morte d’Artur and de Boron’s Merlin.

This also provides the great ambiguity of Merlin. Geoffrey of Monmouth combined the Byrthonic prophet and madman with the Christian military commander, Ambrosius Aurelianus. Later medieval writers resolved this ambiguity by making him a Christian mystic “of the Order of Melchizadek.” Although the meaning of that has faded from common knowledge, that is the name of the Catholic priesthood.


28 posted on 11/26/2013 11:09:39 AM PST by dangus
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