Posted on 11/24/2013 1:44:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv
Sawn surface of the Mars meteorite NWA 7533 showing both light and dark clasts in grey matrix. (LUC LABENNE)
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Zircons from 4.4 billion years ago.
Made back when labor was really cheap. :-)
This is a darn'd clever bunch!
Somebody up there playing pool? Must be a black hole nearby.
Can someone with some understanding of this field explain, how do we know that this is a piece of Mars? Thank you!
Very interesting.
Thank you so much, SunkenCiv!
Since no one has ever been to Mars to take comparative samples, wouldn’t this be conjecture? Sure, they could have taken spectrometry readings of Mars, but all this seems like guessing and extrapolation.
I very much doubt it, myself. IMHO, the evidence for it is (at best) threadbare, hence my comment up in message 2.
"This rock is from mars. I can prove it and if you don't give me money, much bigger ones will soon be arriving." - Mars Science Chair @ Cal Berkley.
Because it’s red?
No. That doesn’t work. It sounds to me like they’re just making a bunch of stuff up.
Certain isotopes are present that can only be expected in something from Mars....
It’s little known, but the lunar crust is stuffed with cheese; that discovery inspired the big pizza chains to follow suit.
Meteorites are what remains of meteors which make it all the way through the atmosphere (everyone knows that I’m sure, but just so we’re all on the same page). Analyzing their composition is the way they are classified, and those with similar compositions are generally thought to be from the same source.
In the case of the Martian rocks, while there has never been a sample return mission (and I’d be against such a thing without certain precautions), the US has put probes on the surface which have analyzed the composition of Mars’ rocks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_meteorite
[snip] By the early 1980s, it was obvious that the SNC group of meteorites (Shergottites, Nakhlites, Chassignites) were significantly different from most other meteorite types. Among these differences were younger formation ages, a different oxygen isotopic composition, the presence of aqueous weathering products, and some similarity in chemical composition to analyses of the Martian surface rocks in 1976 by the Viking landers. [/snip]
meteorites from Mars:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8004#.UpKoUMTrxfg
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lpi/meteorites/mars_meteorite.html
http://www.imca.cc/mars/martian-meteorites.htm
annnnd, meteorites from Mercury:
http://www.npr.org/2013/04/11/176714430/origin-of-meteorite-is-a-puzzle-to-scientists
http://www.space.com/20426-mercury-meteorite-discovery-messenger.html
http://www.space.com/20547-mercury-meteorite-mystery-age.html
http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Rock-said-to-be-from-Mercury-at-Peabody-5008188.php
Thank you so much, SunkenCiv.
I knew about the probes that have brought back samples from Mars, but not in such detail.
You’re the very best!
In fact, YOU ROCK!
[snip] Features in a Martian meteorite believed by some to be the fossilised remains of alien bacteria may have formed underwater, scientists claim. [/snip]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3034165.stm
[snip] A carbon-rich substance found filling tiny cracks within a Martian meteorite could boost the idea that life once existed on the Red Planet. [/snip]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4688938.stm
[snip] New Mars rock hints at past water. [/snip]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3414143.stm
[snip] A chemical study of Martian meteorites implies that the planet has always been cold and was rarely above freezing. [/snip]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4703055.stm
Hey, wow, thanks onyx!
On his Facebook page a good buddy of mine lists his old alma mater as “Mars University/Earth Campus’’. The school fight song is “Surrender Earthlings’’. I’ll have to ask him if this is really a chunk of The Red Planet.
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