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Are We Rome? Ben Powell Compares the U.S. with the Roman Empire
Reason ^ | 9-15-2013 | Ben Powell/Nick Gillespie

Posted on 09/15/2013 6:34:11 PM PDT by Dysart

"If we continue down the misguided path that the government is taking us, then the future does not look good," says Free Market Institute's Ben Powell.

Reason's Nick Gillespie caught up with Powell to discuss the theme of this year's Freedom Fest, "Are We Rome?" and whether America is following in Rome's footsteps towards decline.

"Our economic freedom has been plummeting the last ten years," Powell says, "and this isn't a product of Obama. It's Bush [and] Obama consistently. More than half of our decline in economic freedoms happened under Bush. It's just the rate of decline is happening more under Obama."

(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...


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KEYWORDS: economicfreedom; obama; roman
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1 posted on 09/15/2013 6:34:12 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

At the given link there’s a 5 or 6 minute video interview with Powell comparing and contrasting the Roman Empire with our current state of affairs.


2 posted on 09/15/2013 6:36:42 PM PDT by Dysart (Being nuts has its advantages...and the machete doesn't hurt, either.)
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To: Dysart

Cacatne ursus en silvius?


3 posted on 09/15/2013 6:37:09 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Dysart

No, not Rome . . . but are being dragged down by Roman immigrants with Roman philosophy.


4 posted on 09/15/2013 6:37:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Dysart

we have beenfor awhile. citizensare armed though.


5 posted on 09/15/2013 6:41:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Dysart

This should be interesting. No one has ever thought to compare the USA to the Roman Empire before...


6 posted on 09/15/2013 6:45:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Dysart

The US will never agin be what it was just 20 years ago.

As a nation matures it’s government grows larger and more oppressive with each new round of mgrs buying votes.

We need to reset.


7 posted on 09/15/2013 6:58:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: Darksheare

“Re vera, potas bene.” :-)


8 posted on 09/15/2013 6:58:37 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: NoLibZone

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9 posted on 09/15/2013 6:59:38 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: NoLibZone

We can’t reset. Hillary gave reset button to Russians...


10 posted on 09/15/2013 7:00:03 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: Dysart

I suspect we are transitioning from Republic to overt Empire. It’s just that when Rome mad that transition it was not under a closet Parthian emperor.


11 posted on 09/15/2013 7:02:06 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Darksheare

In dentibus acticis frustrum magnum spinaciae habes.


12 posted on 09/15/2013 7:02:14 PM PDT by Dysart (Being nuts has its advantages...and the machete doesn't hurt, either.)
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To: Dysart

In some ways, no. In too many ways, yes.


13 posted on 09/15/2013 7:10:10 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: arthurus
An Empire with a ruined economy cannot be long sustained. Powell claims the elite plundered and taxed their way to ruin, and that the citizenry were never prosperous, and ultimately could not support further expansion having taken all the booty(heh) available and drained the taxed enough already homies causing their collapse.

But he ends on an optimistic note saying this is not our destiny if we choose another one. Clawing back from resets are arduous and painful; as for me, I prefer a renaissance.

14 posted on 09/15/2013 7:14:48 PM PDT by Dysart (Being nuts has its advantages...and the machete doesn't hurt, either.)
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To: Dysart

there are many similarities as well as differences.

The fall of the Rome started when the Republic was replaced with the Empire. The Republic was never abolished. Think about it.

15 posted on 09/15/2013 7:28:12 PM PDT by DTA (Hands off Syria !)
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To: Dysart
The SECOND Roman Emperor was Tiberius--a monster!

The THIRD was Caligula!

The FIFTH was Nero!

Americans who allow this to happen are not merely fools; they are monsters themselves!

16 posted on 09/15/2013 8:07:33 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The forces of decadence are the forces of evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...This should be interesting. No one has ever thought to compare the USA to the Roman Empire before..."

Hahaha...I was trying to figure out some kind of pithy response, but...the simple statement fits best.

17 posted on 09/15/2013 8:20:54 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
” No one has ever thought to compare the USA to the Roman Empire before...”

I’ve heard the US compared to the demise of Rome for over 50 years.

The only difference is that we have allowed ourselves to be destroyed by welfare in 200 years where it took Rome 800!!!

Government leaches and welfare cases that vote outnumber us by so many now that there is no chance of recovery!

18 posted on 09/15/2013 8:26:32 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Dysart

Roman exceptionalism.


19 posted on 09/15/2013 8:33:50 PM PDT by Palio di Siena (Even the liberal media can't keep lipstick on this pig.)
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To: Savage Beast

Quite true. However, since the empire lasted four centuries after Nero, these guys are unlikely to have been the cause of its collapse.

Also, the reputation of Tiberius as a monster may be overstated. Roman historians lied with astonishing freedom about people they disliked. They just made stuff up, some of it admittedly very entertaining.


20 posted on 09/15/2013 11:36:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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