Posted on 08/27/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
Partial Transcript of the Mark Levin Show aired live on Monday, August 19, 2013
[start at 0:26 of the podcast recording]
Hello everybody, Mark Levin here, our number 877-381-3811, 877-381-3811.
Mark Levin: Before we jump in, all I can say is, Wow! You guys, open your microphones a second. Thousands of people at both booksignings. Wasn’t that unbelievable?
Staffer: There were a lot of people there, it was great.
Mark Levin: And the people were just spectacular, weren’t they? Except for one guy in New Jersey which I’ll talk about later.
Staffer: [chuckles]
Mark Levin: This… this birther stuff is way, way out of contr…”Now Ted Cruz” … I swear I almost hit this guy… “Ted Cruz is not a citizen!” No, he’s born to an American mother, no he’s born in Canada to an American mother. So all you pregnant ladies travelling overseas: According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, they’re not Americans. They’re not natural-born Americans. I just thought you’d wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so. They have no historical background whatsoever… None! But it’s, it’s just amazing! Absolutely stunning! But we had so many wonderful people, and let me add, all races, both genders… I don’t know the sexual preferences, that wasn’t a requirement to say hello…young people, elderly, middle age people. A particularly young crowd, yeah, we had dogs come too, everybody so well behaved, and uh, it was a pleasure. In New York, we were there about four-and-a-half hours, in New Jersey about five, five-and-a-half hours, and I wanted to be respectful to everybody, so… I just want to thank you all, and this Saturday, Tyson’s Corner, Virginia, at Barnes and Noble. I should add, if you want to see the crowd that was at New York, Mr. Producer went down the line, and this was early on, this, this line kept growing and growing throughout the day…you can go look at uh MarkLevinShow.com on our website, as well as the social sites MarkLevinShow Facebook, MarkLevinShow Twitter. Um, Christians, Coptic Christians are being wiped out in Egypt. Their churches are being burned to the ground….
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Mark Levin: Alright, lets go to uh, Steve in New York, the great WABC, go!
Steve: Great one, it’s great to talk to you, what an honor.
Mark Levin: My honor, thank you, my friend.
Steve: Oh, I got a great story for you, I loved your uh, Hannity special, I enjoyed it very much, I listened to it three times over the weekend…
Mark Levin: Oh, thank you.
Steve: …I got my wife, I got my wife to tape for me, or TIVO it, and she watched it. And she really enjoyed it. She’s not big on politics or anything, and she gets sick of hearing me talk about it, but it was funny ‘cause she said “He is so calm, Steve.” He was, she was trying to do a little wifey/husband training? And…
Mark Levin: Uh huh.
Steve: she said “He is so calm, and he gets his point across. He didn’t raise his voice, or get upset…
Mark Levin: [chuckles]
Steve: …or anything!”
Mark Levin: [breaks out into laughter]
Steve: …and I laughed so hard. I said “How do you, uh, where do you think I learned how to yell?” [laughs] “I just listen to Mark.” And she knows you’re my hero, I go around quotin’ ya, and tellin’ everybody to listen to ya, and…
Mark Levin: Well, that’s great.
Steve: she just … to get me to calm down a little, and I said you just need to listen to Mark. [laughs]
Mark Levin: Well, thank you, uh…well listen, you know what, this is called passion, just remind her it’s passion, you know, and um…what was truly exceptional about the Hannity program, number one, the man has enormous class and decency, and number two, he was asking me questions because he wanted me to inform the public about what I’d written, and to engage the studio audience. And notice we didn’t have a bunch of left-wing bomb throwers just yelling and talking over people. There were conversations actually occurring, did you notice that?
Steve: Yes, there was no crazy, I mean a lot of times he’s got the left wingers on there, and it’s just, kind, it’s almost funny to watch, but that was so interesting and…and it didn’t get me upset, and it just, I just wanted to listen to it over and over and absorb every second of it, and every bit of information, it…it’s just brilliant, Mark, I, you know I hope when um…we’ve got President Cruz, he has the wisdom to make you his chief of staff or vice-president.
Mark Levin: No, no no no no no. And he’s got a great chief of staff, by the way. No, I…I do what I do, and uh, and he will do a great job should he be president. Thank you for your call my friend. And uh, I’m so sick of these birthers. I was going to tell you about this, uh, incident. Just a wonderful group of people, uh, we were in Bookends, Ridgewood, New Jersey, and everyone was respectful until…and it was hot outside, it got hot, hotter than uh originally forecast and it was a very long line, and you know we try to go through it quickly out of respect for everybody in line, but I also try to be respectful to everybody in line. Um…but this fella [breathes out] gets in my face and first of all he points to some obscure note on page I don’t know whatever and he said [cough] excuse me folks, and he says “You were wrong about this, you were wrong about”, and honestly I, I, I didn’t have time to read it, and I’ll go back and check it, if I’m wrong about it I’ll fix it, and that happens sometimes in these books when you’re going into the notes, you might put a word when you mean another word, or a state when you mean another state, so I’m going to check it out, I just haven’t had time. And then he goes, he says uh “And Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president. He’s not a natural-born Citizen.” And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but he’s born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesn’t that make him a natural-born Ci… “No, but he was in Canada when he was born!” Okay, but she wasn’t Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isn’t what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mother’s an American citizen, so he’s an American citizen! That’s not a constitutional issue, that’s an interpretive issue… or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution. So, the face of the Constitution isn’t terribly helpful. If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy, and there’s a lot of easy cases. So the guy gets in my face, and he starts pointing and pointing, and I looked at him and I pointed back, and I cursed, unfortunately, but the, because, uh you know, he was…he was a nutjob. And I thought to myself: Why do you come here and do that? Is this, is this sort of the way you…you excite yourself or something? No. So, I just want you folks to know who like Ted Cruz. I…I assume they’re going to do this to Rubio, or some of these other people too, whether you like ‘em or not for president I’m just making a point, but now this has become an entire industry. And of course [chuckles] Ted Cruz [laughs], he immediately issued today or yesterday his long form birth certificate. Now, some of this is probably coming from the left. So now they’re the birthers. But some of it’s coming from others, too. People just get obsessed, or conspiratorial, and there’s no end to it, on a matter like this, and there’s nothing I can say or point to that’s going to change their mind. But in my view there’s no doubt about it that he’s eligible for president, should he choose to run, just as I believe McCain was eligible for president, when he ran. So…that’s my opinion! You may not like it… But what particularly bothered me about this guy…he was disrespectful in his conduct to everybody else standing there. They were pleasant, talking to each other, you know…listening, watching and so forth. I’m a big boy; I’ve seen this and a thousand times worse. But he was quite obnoxious. He’s the only one…oh no there was another guy, had a prob, wha wha, he what…he had a problem, he was screaming upstairs, I don’t know what he was screamin’ about. It was kind of eventful there in New Jersey. No, there wasn’t anything like that in New York, was there boys? [Staff: No. Peaceful in ji…you know in Long Island] It was peaceful on Long Island! [chuckles] But is was peaceful in New Jersey, too. It really, really was. It was just terrific. If you could have seen that line, well, actually you can. We have the uh video, and this is just the start of the day with the line. It got longer and longer at uh… at Book Review in Long Island if you want to take a look on MarkLevinShow.com or MarkLevi…oh there is now? The…the New Jersey line? Okay. Both lines. On MarkLevinShow.com, are they both on the social sites too? Or…just the Long Island. But we’ll put the other one up later so some of you can see yourselves, too. Alright. GoldLine!
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(further information and videos at: http://queenofliberty.com/2013/08/14/mark-levin-rolls-out-his-new-book/)
I like how Levin called De Vattel “Mr cuckoo clock”.
Depends on the degree of nastiness. Don’t get nasty against our freepers or our conservative candidates.
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No, but it's sufficient to cast doubt on a claim that he was. It seems to me like there are three possibilities here:
1. Your sources are all wrong. It seems unlikely, but it's possible, especially if one of them is the source for all the other ones. One can't tell by looking at them.
2. Dane is wrong. It seems unlikely that he'd be so wrong about what sounds like a major issue in a campaign he'd lived through just 16 years earlier, but it's possible.
3. Dane is right that Jefferson was a naturalized citizen of France, but by some other means than what the Albany Register claimed. Your sources indicate that "the French Revolutionary Assembly conferred honorary citizenship on Washington and Hamilton as well as Madison, but not Jefferson," but that only proves he didn't become a French citizen that way, not that he couldn't have some other way. Unlikely, perhaps, but not disproven.
So on the Mythbusters scale, I guess the claim is still "plausible," not "busted." But IMO it's weakened enough that I wouldn't assert it as fact.
What I don't understand, Jim, is why you allow birthers to go so far across the line as they do, such as repeatedly saying that others deserve an "ass beating."
If you don’t like the way I manage this site take a freaking hike!
By the way, I would like to thank you for responding.
I hope this has not been raised in reference to the "natural born citizen" requirement, because that requirement did not apply to Jefferson (or the other three mentioned): "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President." Since they were citizens when the Constitution was ratified, they met the criterion, and any other citizenship they had was irrelevent.
Oh. Okay.
I have learned a lot here, an awful lot of it from standing up to people who don’t seem to care a great deal, when push comes to shove, about our Constitution, our laws, or the actual truth.
I have also met some people I would be proud to serve in the conservative cause with ANY day. People who are smart. People who are witty, people are who stand up for conservative principles and the truth, even when it might momentarily seem inconvenient.
People like Mr Rogers. Like 4zoltan, Ha Ha Thats Very Logical, Kansas58, Longbow1969, NeroGermanicus, Tau Food, Servant of the Cross, BuckeyeTexan, Perdogg, and others. I’m sure I’ve forgotten someone.
To DiogenesLamp: I congratulate you. Your ugliness, and your unrelenting propaganda have won. What you couldn’t achieve with the facts, you’ve achieved with your propaganda and personal attacks. Go out and celebrate. At least as far as this poster is concerned, you have successfully drowned out the truth.
Ultimately, you won’t succeed in your quixotic quest to suppress the truth. But go out and celebrate. Today, at least, you and your mob have won.
There has never been any hard evidence that TJ was ever made a citizen of France. There have only been allegations without proof.
I'll add this info:
"...Nearly two centuries before, Jefferson's foes spread the equally baseless rumour he had accepted French citizenship from Robespierre in person."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/out-of-america-a-jefferson-by-any-other-name-1433543.html
The decision said such persons were indisputably NBC. It also said there had been dispute over whether other definitions were also valid.
There are three possible qualifications for NBC status, X. citizenship of mother, Y. citizenship of father, Z. place of birth.
M v H said an XYZ person qualified as NBC without dispute. Obama is XZ. Cruz is X only. The Court did not rule at all on whether such lesser criteria also qualify.
My take would be that any of the persons that acknowledged/accepted the French action in a positive manner before 17 Sept.,1787, the date of signing of the Constitution, could be taken as accepting French citizenship. However, a date of 1793 indicates to me that the French were just looking for proselytes for their cause, not unusual for French governments to this day. Madison’s expression of gratitude and even devotion to a cause does not rise to acceptance of citizenship. I don’t know about this person Dane but it seems a stretch to to take a French action and turn it into a USA result. With such reasoning the honorary USA citizenship for Churchill makes him a citizen with all rights as such.
Suggesting that Obama does not legitimately qualify to be President is the same as saying our Government intentionally destroyed many buildings killing 3,000+ people so they could have a pretext for war with Iraq?
I would suggest there is no comparison between "birthers" and "truthers". Even the term "birthers" is an attempt to malign because it is intended to draw comparison with "truthers."
The "Birther" issue has legitimate questions and plausible answers. The "Truthers" do not.
And I appreciate those here who take the time to research and intelligently rebut the quackery that is birtherism.
Yes, we are exactly like people who think our government murdered thousands of people to justify a war. It is "quackery" to suggest that Obama might not be eligible for the Presidency under a strict interpretation of Article II.
Note that one of the excerpts indicates that this citizenship was honorary. That’s not surprising considering that Jefferson, for example, was US ambassador to France while the Constitution was being drafted.
Finally consider that the NBC requirement of Clause 5 of Section 1 of Article II did not apply to these Founders because they were US citizens at the time that the Constitution was adopted.
Am I overlooking anything?
Thank you for your response. It appears to me to be a perfectly reasonable analysis of the available information.
Thank you for your response. I agree. A person is not responsible for claims other people make on their behalf.
Without a decree signed by Jefferson indicating his intention to become a French citizen, you have gone well beyond any requirement.
Thank you for your response. I agree. A person cannot be naturalized without their consent. (And Jefferson was not even given "Honorary" French citizenship.)
Secondly, don’t waste too much time arguing with Fogblowers. Wasting your time and annoying you is their goal. (They will argue in circles, and call in comrades. It is in their playbook.)
I don't think Jeff is a Fogblower. (Meaning Liberal Democrat) I think he has some particularly strong reason for wanting to believe what he believes, but I think that he is an actual conservative who has merely been misled on this issue. For some reason it has far too much emotional significance to him. It clouds his judgement.
People like?
Two of them you mention above are FogBlow FogBlowers working for Soros, Obama, and the rabid lefties in the Democrat party.
Yes, that was quite well reasoned. You don't like what someone says? Mock them with funny names.
Why do you let this stuff bother you?
I’ve been called all manner of names. Never got a scratch from any of ‘em.
I’ve taken differing opinions on things from the majority
from time to time and oh my wasn’t there just such a hoo-raw over it.
Had a mass demand for my banning once, even.
Never once did it occur to me to appeal to management about it.
You suck it up and move on. This place would be dull as dirt if
everyone agreed on everything, and some folks hereabouts are pretty
darn firm in their opinions on this or that issue. So there are clashes.
From what I’ve seen of Jim’s stance on this is that unless there are
blatant violations of policy, he pretty much lets folks work out their own differences.
I like it that way, I’m used to it and wouldn’t have it any other way even if it worked in my favor.
Thank you for your response. Though I would have hoped you would have gone further, your position is reasonable in my opinion.
What would you regard as necessary to label it "busted"?
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