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If the 2016 Republican Primary Was Today.....
08/09/13 | Alan Levy

Posted on 08/09/2013 8:07:18 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama

If the 2016 Republican Primary was held today (assuming We the Conservatives don't form a third party out of disgust), who would you like to see as the nominee to face Hitlery Clinton ?


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To: Old Sarge

The same Allen West who did such a pathetic job on contesting the fraudulent election that
it cost him his seat?

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In that Congressional District West got some 5,000+ votes less than Romney. That makes
no sense to me other than he wasn’t appealing to the voters or ballot box manipulations.


121 posted on 08/10/2013 6:59:11 AM PDT by deport
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To: Clump

Church/Caboose....2016
(Red vs Blue Fans will understand)


122 posted on 08/10/2013 7:07:39 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

123 posted on 08/10/2013 8:33:07 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Grams A

I’m glad you captured the spirit of my remark!


124 posted on 08/10/2013 10:02:13 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Al Capone.


125 posted on 08/10/2013 11:07:17 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Gaffer
Sorry, I don’t want reform; I want enforcement. Rigorous, punitive enforcement - that’s all.

I'd be for reform: if it were really reform (i.e. cutting down the bureaucracy) instead of just code-speak for amnesty.

126 posted on 08/10/2013 11:59:04 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
Me.

Or in the real world:
West - Prez
Cruz - VP
Bolton - Sec State
Paul - Sec Tresury
Franks - Sec Def
Palin - Interior
Norris - DHS
Perry - EPA
Walker - EEOC/Labor Sec
Arpaio - Attny General
Ryan - Sec Commerce

127 posted on 08/10/2013 12:01:14 PM PDT by DesertSapper (Becoming more libertarian by the day)
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To: OneWingedShark

Yes, that’s reform, but this government has never heard nor understood the meaning of that word.

They want reform to appease liberals under whom these RINOs have developed an eternal Stockholm Syndrome, and the Democrats want reform to get 50 million new illegal Mexican voters and to legitimize their current lawlessness by ignoring laws already on the books.


128 posted on 08/10/2013 12:07:34 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DesertSapper

Agree with most of yours very much. However, RYAN is a nothing no go in my book. He can ‘de facto’ hisself [sic] all the way out the door out of a job for all I care.


129 posted on 08/10/2013 12:09:08 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Old Sarge; Absolutely Nobama

THIS Allen West...

West’s rhetoric has won him both support and condemnation from differing groups along the American political spectrum. Members of the conservative movement view him as a “torch bearer” and “conservative icon”, with Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent both recommending him for Vice President, and Glenn Beck supporting him for President. Several remarks by West have caused differing degrees of controversy. These include calling President Barack Obama “an abject failure”, ordering both pro-Palestinian demonstrators and the views of “chicken men” Democrats to “get the hell out” of the United States, opining that drivers with Obama bumper stickers are “a threat to the gene pool”, and pronouncing that black Democrats are trying to keep African Americans “on the plantation”, while casting himself as the “modern-day Harriet Tubman” ferrying them to rescue. In a critical summation of West’s stylistic bombast, the left-leaning Mother Jones magazine opined that “[for West] every sentence is a proxy war in the larger struggle between patriots and the ‘people in this world that just have to have their butts kicked.’”

In January 2011, West joined House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) in condemning the official flying of a Palestine Liberation Organization flag in Washington D.C.. West said that the raising of the flag is “an attempt to legitimize an organization with a known history of terrorist actions”.[38] In February, West described Michael Ledeen as one of his “foreign policy heroes”, and implored his followers to read Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals to “understand what they’re up against.” Other authors West has cited in helping him shape his worldview include philosopher John Stuart Mill and Union Army General William Tecumseh Sherman, known for the proclamation that “war is hell”.

Ideologically, West has cast his work overseas in historical terms, theorizing that America is following in the footsteps of Charles Martel at the Battle of Tours, or the 300 Spartan Hoplites at the Battle of Thermopylae, in defending Western civilization against Muslim threats from the Middle East. In speaking on what he believes to be Islam’s proclivity for violence, West remarked that “Something happened when Mohammed enacted the Hijra and he left Mecca and he went out to Medina, it became violence.” In lieu of this view, in February 2011, West cited the threat of “radical Islamic terrorists” as his motivation for voting to extend provisions of the Patriot Act; however, he voted against another extension in May 2011. When asked during an interview with The Shalom Show how he would work with others “like Keith Ellison, who supports Islam,” West stated that Ellison, a Minnesota Congressman and practicing Muslim, represents the “antithesis of the principles upon which this country was established.” West later argued that his initial comment was misconstrued. He said the comments were “not about his Islamic faith, but about his continued support of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).” In a Boynton Beach Town Hall meeting, West told the Miami leader of CAIR that “I will always defend your right to practice a free religion under the First Amendment, but what you must understand, if I am speaking the truth, I am not going to stop speaking the truth. The truth is not subjective.”

On July 19, 2011, West sent an email to Democratic Representative and Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz in response to comments directed at him in a speech the Congresswoman made on the floor of the House of Representatives after West had departed the chamber. West’s email, which he copied to members of House Democratic and Republican leadership, characterized Wasserman as “the most vile, unprofessional, and despicable member of the US House of Representatives”, said that she was “not a lady” and asked that she focus, instead, on her own congressional district. This is a long-standing dispute that West says “dates back to the disgusting protest you ordered at my campaign headquarters, October 2010 in Deerfield Beach.”

At town hall meeting in Palm City, Florida on April 11, 2012, West was asked by a man in the audience, “What percentage of the American legislature do you think are card carrying Marxists or International Socialists?” West responded that he believed “there’s about 78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party that are members of the Communist Party.” When asked to name them, he replied “It’s called the Congressional Progressive Caucus.”

http://electionsmeter.com/detail/Allen-West-id6675


130 posted on 08/10/2013 12:09:35 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Peter W. Kessler
Me
That’s right, me.
...and whomever is crazy enough to be my running mate.

I'll do it!
I have a list of constitutional amendments I'd like to introduce, and IIRC, the VP can (as President of the Senate) make such proposals.


Fiscal Responsibility Amendment Tax Reform Amendment
Section I
The power of Congress to regulate the value of the dollar is hereby repealed.

Section II
The value of the Dollar shall be one fifteen-hundredth avoirdupois ounce of gold of which impurities do not exceed one part per thousand.

Section III
To guard against Congress using its authority over weights and measures to bypass Section I, the ounce in Section II is approximately 28.3495 grams (SI).

Section IV
The Secretary of the Treasury shall annually report the gold physically in its possession; this report shall be publicly available.

Section V
The power of the Congress to assume debt is hereby restricted: the congress shall assume no debt that shall cause the total obligations of the United States to exceed one hundred ten percent of the amount last reported by the Secretary of the Treasury.

Section VI
Any government agent, officer, judge, justice, employee, representative, or congressman causing gold to be confiscated from a private citizen shall be tried for theft and upon conviction shall:
     a. be removed from office (and fired, if an employee),
     b. forfeit all pension and retirement benefits,
     c. pay all legal costs, and
     d. restore to the bereaved twice the amount in controversy.

Section VII
The federal government shall assume no obligation lacking funding, neither shall it lay such obligation on any of the several States, any subdivision thereof, or any place under the jurisdiction of the United States. All unfunded liabilities heretofore assumed by the United States are void.

Section VIII
The federal government shall make all payments to its employees or the several states in physical gold. Misappropriation, malfeasance and/or misfeasance of funds shall be considered confiscation.
Section I
No tax, federal or state, shall ever be withheld from the wages of a worker of any citizen of either.

Section II
No property shall be seized for failure to pay taxes until after conviction in a jury trial; the right of the jury to nullify (and thereby forgive) this debt shall never be questioned or denied.

Section III
The second amendment is hereby recognized as restricting the power of taxation, both federal and state, therefore no tax (or fine) shall be laid upon munitions or the sale thereof.

Section IV
The seventh amendment is also hereby recognized, and nothing in this amendment shall restrict the right of a citizen to seek civil redress.

Section V
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever exceed 10%.

Section VI
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever apply varying rates to those in its jurisdiction.

Section VII
No retroactive or ex post facto tax (or fee) shall ever be valid.

Section VIII
The congress may not delegate the creation of any tax or fine in any way.

Section IX
No federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent shall ever be exempt from any tax, fine, or fee by virtue of their position.

Section X
Any federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent applying, attempting to apply, or otherwise causing the application of an ex post facto or retroactive law shall, upon conviction, be evicted from office and all retirement benefits forfeit.
Commerce Clause Amendment Senate Reform Amendment
Section I
The federal government shall directly subsidize no product or industry whatsoever, saving the promotion the progress of Science and useful Arts.

Section II The federal government shall never prescribe nor proscribe what the Several States teach. Neither the federal government nor the several states shall ever deny the right of parents to teach and instruct their children as they see fit.

Section III
The congress may impose tariffs, excise taxes, and customs duties on anything imported or exported, provided that they are applied uniformly and in no manner restrict, subvert, or circumvent the second amendment.

Section IV
No law may impose prohibitions of any sort on the commerce between the several states due to the item itself.
Section I
The seventeenth amendment is hereby repealed.

Section II
The several states may provide by law the means by which their senators may be removed or replaced.

The weakest/least thought-out amendment would be the commerce-clause restriction one (but restrictions do need put in-place there) the other three though are, I believe, very solid and would do much toward reigning in government.
131 posted on 08/10/2013 12:13:58 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

132 posted on 08/10/2013 12:38:34 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (The)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

AMEN to that. Bob


133 posted on 08/10/2013 1:50:04 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("The atmosphere's too cold in here to attract a butterfly like that." Al Stewart)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Trey Gowdy should be considered.


134 posted on 08/10/2013 4:30:24 PM PDT by Rodd OB (23 year Simi Valleyer)
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To: OneWingedShark

You may very well be right.


135 posted on 08/10/2013 5:59:27 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: MestaMachine

I think it’s time to fire Priebus and put you in charge, Mesta!


136 posted on 08/10/2013 6:01:26 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: jocon307

I like both, but I think Perry would have to work extra hard after last primary’s fiasco.


137 posted on 08/10/2013 6:04:47 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: jocon307

“My candidate”, Mike Lee, went down in flames in this little exercise. Thus, I pulled a page out of the Kenyan Fuhrer’s playbook and changed the rules midstream.

For my next trick. I’m gonna lower the oceans and heal the earth......

:)


138 posted on 08/10/2013 6:08:40 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Viennacon

That’s who I switched my vote to.


139 posted on 08/10/2013 6:09:52 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Viennacon

I’ve never heard him talk about running, I just really like how well he communicates Conservative values. Then again, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Sarah Palin aren’t exactly slouches in that department either.

I was kind of shocked that no one brought up his name, really.

Oh well.


140 posted on 08/10/2013 6:13:06 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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