Posted on 07/12/2013 6:21:05 AM PDT by rktman
Nancy Grace on Thursday got into an extremely heated debate with Frank Taaffe, a friend of George Zimmerman, over the series of events that led to the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
Taaffe argued that Zimmerman had a legal right to carry his firearm with him and was doing nothing wrong when he noticed a suspicious character.
He was a legal concealed weapons permit carrier, he said.
For some reason, Grace was baffled by the mention of a concealed weapons permit. A legal concealed weapons carrier, she shot back. Did you just say that?
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GZ was a concerned neighbor doing a good deed (neighborhood watch) on his own time.
I guess that sort of thing is frowned upon buy libtards like Nancy Grace
“Shut up”, she explained.
Well, maybe if she had a CCW license, her fiance wouldn’t have been murdered and she wouldn’t have been raped.
The coverage of this case has been so outrageous, so unjust, I can’t stand to pay attention. And Nancy Nograce is abominable, not to mention ignorant. Safeties on a concealed carry piece can get you killed.
Live ammo? Oh, Lordy!
What is the deal with Savage? His take on this thing is surprising.
No, safeties on a CCW [and even an open-carry] are a good thing. When you are in an adrenaline-filled situation the last thing you need to do is fire off a round when you grab at your piece. — Yes, you need to know and practice disengaging the safety to get good at it (make it second nature) — and you still need to know your target, its surroundings, and make the conscious decision to fire.
How those Duke Lacrosse players doing you harridan?
Taking the contrarian stand to get ratings.
I have no respect for this.
Nancy is such a pompous ass. I never watch her because she sounds and looks like a -itch. (W or B either one fits)
All the state’s witnesses and experts testified otherwise,safety should not be on.
Yeah, I feel like he does this every once in a while to keep you guessing. Levin has not failed me yet.
Ah ha! You know what she sounds like. That’s more than I can say. LOL!
He is not well informed. When I read his statement he had a couple of facts wrong,can’t think of what. Maybe he just wants to be contrary.
You got me. He’s way off the rails on this one. Too much time in NY and CA might be his problem.
A safety on a CCW is neither good nor bad. It all depends upon whether the carrier has trained sufficiently to respond instinctively in a time of stress.
I don't like external safeties on my carry pieces. My primary carry piece is a Sig Sauer P239 DAK SAS. No external safety. Just draw and pull the trigger.
In cooler weather where I have bulky clothing, I sometimes carry a Glock 19. Again, no external safety. Just draw and pull the trigger.
If a person doesn't shoot much, if that person has a gun with an external safety, if that person suddenly finds himself in a threatening situation (where he loses the ability to think in a calm fashion), he conceivably could get shot because he didn't have the presence of mind to disengage the safety.
I'm going to politely disagree Shark, but with a specific deferral to your story.
When you're in an adrenaline-filled situation, you should be sufficiently prepared to react according to training. I am a civilian, no formal military or law enforcement training, but I've spent a lot of money and invested a lot of time in tactical pistol, rifle, and shotgun training both outdoors and indoors to know and understand not only how to handle a firearm in a defense situation but how to react and respond to the default responses of the body.
When you're in a stress situation, you're not likely to remember to rack the slide to chamber a round or to disengage a manual safety. This could mean your life in a shootout, even if you are training yourself to disengage it!
Passive safeties like trigger and grip safeties are perfectly acceptable, because they are part of the ergonomic utility of the gun. Training yourself to put your trigger finger anywhere but on the trigger in a defensive situation can cause confusion and will become a problem if your OODA loop is disrupted during the situation, which it usually is.
I think most importantly, having a ready-to-fire weapon is a practice in civility and proper training. You are more likely to be deliberate in your actions and treat the weapon properly if it is loaded and ready than if there were one or more steps required to use it.
To each his own. I don’t care for a safety on a carry gun, but safety philosophy is not really the issue. Even though you prefer a safety I am sure you know that many guns designed for the ever-growing CCW market have no safety. Many carry snubnose revolvers for instance. And the Ruger LCP is the Toyota Camry of the modern carry piece. Neither a snubby nor an LCP has a safety. Many carry Glocks. They don’t have them either. For Nancy Grace to suggest Zimmerman was out-of-line because he had no safety was highly irresponsible.
Demonstrating again the liberal view of the world. Their agenda is what is and all else is not permitted. Guns are not permitted in liberal land. Taking a position opposite of that is crazy, illegal, and anything is justified in forwarding that agenda including ignoring the actual law. See, when the actual law contrasts with liberal agenda, it just isn’t law. So we will send Mr. Zimmerman to jail not for violating the actual law but violating the liberal agenda. Taken in that context, Nancy’s psychosis is perfectly understandable.
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