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60's Race Riots?

Posted on 07/05/2013 9:20:56 PM PDT by MNDude

I've heard of race riots that took place back in the 1960's. I was wondering if anyone here is old enough to remember them, why they took place, and how bad they were?


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1 posted on 07/05/2013 9:20:57 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude

It was bad enough that it essentially killed Detroit.


2 posted on 07/05/2013 9:23:03 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: MNDude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-L0NpaErkk

I know. It has nothing to do with the 60’s. I just like the song.


3 posted on 07/05/2013 9:24:23 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: MNDude

there are so many armed ccw holders that if riots break out in multiple places, it’s going to make the 60s look like the 30s.


4 posted on 07/05/2013 9:24:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: MNDude

One thing is these riots always take place in the rioters own neighborhoods. They essentially s**t in their own nests. Stay away from ghetto-ville and you’ll be all right.


5 posted on 07/05/2013 9:28:58 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: MNDude

Watts riots 1965 Los Angeles

http://www.usc.edu/libraries/archives/la/watts.html

Looks like not much has changed as far as circumstances.


6 posted on 07/05/2013 9:29:53 PM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: MNDude
Believe it or not, people were much more civilized back then, even the rioters. If we have riots the size of the 60’s events, they'll be much worse because of the barbarity of today's society. You'll see.
7 posted on 07/05/2013 9:31:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: MNDude
Race Riots = not recommended.

They screwed up race relations until the Muzzies came along to attack both sides.

Detroit Delenda Est. Still an unfortunate fact that is unlikely to change.

8 posted on 07/05/2013 9:32:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MNDude

I was born in 1966 so the race riots then are basically flickering images I vaguely remember on our 1959 Philco B&W TV. I think we had riots here in Pittsburgh when Martin Luther King was assassinated. I know another thing, the riots were a huge force in people buying VHF/UHF radios and early police scanners to tune in police calls.


9 posted on 07/05/2013 9:32:56 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("We have met the enemy, he is us!" - Pogo Possum - 1971)
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To: MNDude

I was a young teen in 1965 and lived about 20 miles from the LA/Watts riots. It was bad and very intense even away from the epicenter, but most of it was contained in and around Watts. I watched all the coverage of the 68 riots and during the Rodney King riots, the unrest was bad in LA, but minor riots spread accross the country.

The Zimmerman verdict has the potential to be very bad. Racial tensions have gotten worse under Obama.


10 posted on 07/05/2013 9:32:57 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: MNDude

I remember the race riots of the 60s. I was a young kid at the time, but I remember that my granddad (who lived in Watts) carried 24/7 while that mess was going on.

I was an Army brat at the time, so I never lived near any of the real violence. My extended family in Los Angeles did, though.


11 posted on 07/05/2013 9:32:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MNDude

I remember them, luckily I was far away from them. White people were either loading guns or placing SOUL BROTHER in their windows.

Little Rock (where I lived at the time) prepared for a race riot when it was learned a truck load of Black muzlims were in town. The riot never occurred.

At that time I sold my single action style revolver and bought a 13 shot Browning Hi-Power after reading of what happened to people in other towns who accidentally drove into a riot area.

Meanwhile, other cities burned. The black motto at that time was “Burn this shitty city down!” “Burn baby Burn!”


12 posted on 07/05/2013 9:33:09 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: MNDude
One cop at the time said that you knew a riot was in the works when buckets of rocks began to appear on rooftops, so many of these riots were not spontaneous, they were planned.
13 posted on 07/05/2013 9:35:45 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: MNDude

I watched the Watts riots,
‘Burn baby,Burn!’
Los Angeles in the ‘60s.
Why????


14 posted on 07/05/2013 9:36:11 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ("don't hurt me , G 'man!")
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To: MNDude

The DC riot following the MLK assassination in 1968 is the one I remember from the ‘60s.

http://worldhistoryproject.org/1968/4/4/riots-erupt-in-washington-dc-following-martin-luther-king-jr-assassination


15 posted on 07/05/2013 9:38:17 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: MNDude

I remember them pretty well although I was not in them. Go look at footage of the LA riots after the Rodney King trial, and multiply those by a small factor, say 2 or 3. Maybe 5. They were kind of terrifying, because there was no imagining the upper limit of how far they might go. There were adjoining blocks in Detroit which were afire all at once, and that’s certainly nothing we are used to seeing. And, remember, TV coverage in 1965 was quite larval compared to what it might be today in terms of coverage. I lived in NJ, and maybe 12 miles outside of Newark, which was quite run down and indeed had some rioting, but nothing at all like Detroit. Detroit never recovered. I am not sure one could say that about any other city where riots occurred. Certainly some cities lost maybe 15 years...not forgetting that 10 years after 1965 was the middle of the 70’s which was quite a crappy era in many ways.


16 posted on 07/05/2013 9:38:25 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both parties are trying to elect a new PEOPLE.)
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To: MNDude

The media and liberals want everyone to believe that all race riots only happened in the deep south.

These clowns are such liars. Race riots and racial issues certainly weren’t exclusive to the south.


18 posted on 07/05/2013 9:39:13 PM PDT by boycott
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To: MNDude

Plainfield, NJ, 1967. Machine gun fire in the summer night. It was bad, and the little town I grew up in was never the same.


19 posted on 07/05/2013 9:40:45 PM PDT by Argus
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To: MNDude

I was born in ‘51 and raised in upstate NY. No race riots there, but I remember them on the TV every single night for what seemed like forever. It felt like they might have occurred on Mars for all the effect it had on us. However, getting sucker-punched in the face in downtown Ithaca and watching the race riots taught me to stay out of inner cities at a young age. I worked in Compton on a short job in ‘74 and was extremely wary.


20 posted on 07/05/2013 9:42:19 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: MNDude

The only ones I remember with any clarity were the ones shortly after MLK was assassinated.

Even in my small town, blacks rioted in the streets burning down their own homes, desecrating their own neighborhoods.

I remember sitting on the front porch of my aunts house about two miles form the riots with a shotgun in my arms hoping the riots didn’t spread ... they didn’t (I was 22).


21 posted on 07/05/2013 9:43:22 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Jonty30

Chicago’s East Side, a small industrial area and the home of many residents of Yugoslav heritage was probably better known as a hotbed of union activity and a stronghold for the Daley machine than it was for gangsters. Nonetheless “The Night Chicago Died” put the community on the map.


22 posted on 07/05/2013 9:44:19 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Believe it or not, people were much more civilized back then, even the rioters

No matter how many posts are made to this thread, this one's the truest.

23 posted on 07/05/2013 9:45:14 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: MNDude
I was at Travis AFB during the race riots there.

Coming from Vermont, I was very naïve, thinking people were just people.

The funny thing was, the older civilian black guys I worked with, and a few black friends who grew up out of the cities, couldn't figure out the behavior of the vermin who were rioting either.

There were around 30,000 of the creatures at Travis, probably around 2,000 folks who happened to be black and were just as upset, if not moreso than we non-blacks over the behavior of the creatures

The inner city types refused to work, claiming they weren't "slaves".

They spent the nights and days partying, smoking dope, getting drunk and listening to their "music" at such high levels, those of us who worked couldn't sleep.

You could feel the concrete walls of the barracks shaking to the "music".

These subhuman creatures taught me why many Americans are "prejudiced".

There was one chow hall on the end of the base where our dorms were, right in the middle of the dorms.

The creatures took it over and allowed no white people in.

They did the same to the Airman's Club.

We had to walk a couple of miles just to eat because of these creatures.

To add insult to injury, we, whites were forced to go to "race relations" classes so we could "understand" the creatures' "music" and "culture".

This was supposedly to defuse the situation.

I had just about gotten over my bad feelings, then the creature occupying the white house was elected.

The fact that he is a halfrican is of no interest to me.

I would have gladly voted for Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams or any other legally qualified, conservative / libertarian black candidate for President.

What bothers me is I see the same inner city creature in him and his appointees as I saw at Travis.

I wish "we could all just get along", but with the attitude these creatures have, they will not stop until, eventually there is war within, on a very large scale.

They will start the battle, they may be surprised by our reaction to their attack.

24 posted on 07/05/2013 9:45:35 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: MNDude
why they took place,

Competing currents in the civil rights movement. On one hand, there was MLK with his non-violent approach. On the other hand, there were assorted militant black elements primarily following orders from Moscow.

One cannot help but notice that since the Soviet Union fell, there have been none of the periodic riots that characterized the 60's, 70's and 80's. One can safely throw in the LA riots into that group since it occurred so soon after the Soviet Union collapsed.

25 posted on 07/05/2013 9:46:02 PM PDT by fso301
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To: MNDude
Those riots were mainly 1965-68. Up through 1964, I would say the civil rights movement was pretty much a righteous cause. But starting in 1965, and increasingly thereafter, not so much. The significant gains had been achieved, and things started to go downhill. The more "militant" leaders began to come to the fore. LBJ's Great Society began to destroy the black community. Then in 1968, after the King assassination, there were lots of riots.

(BTW, I date 1965 as the start of the decline of the American culture.)

26 posted on 07/05/2013 9:46:47 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (b. 1953)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
The black motto at that time was “Burn this shitty city down!” “Burn baby Burn!”

That was basically the radical leftist motto.

27 posted on 07/05/2013 9:48:32 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Jonty30
I grew up in Detroit, though fortunately, my family moved out in ‘65, 2 years before the major riot of 1967. It was an event that would brand Detroit so many bad names, from “Murder Capital” to “Bad Boy” (Detroit Pistons) images.
In 1967 it was a war zone with the National Guard out in full force, APCs in the streets, tanks and a curfew.

Block upon block of the inner city burned and firefighters who came to put them out were killed by snipers. The Detroit police responded with an iron fist, shooting a lot of folks who were looting.

Even in the northwestern suburbs where 99% of the Whites fled, there were rumors (unfounded) that Blacks would come out to our areas and kill White people, just to make a point. We were in a sort of “lock down” and we were armed, almost creating a militia, just in case.

This landmark even of 1967 was worse than the previous race riots of 1945. I was not yet born in 1945, so I guess, look it up on Google.

Detroit never recovered, it remained a gutted, grammarian city with many African American (note, previously, I used the term “Black”, you could do that then) Mayors, each one more corrupt than the previous one.

The true downfall happened with the aid of two individuals, Mayor Coleman Young and City councilman, Kenneth Cockrel. These two, more than any other politicians, DESTROYED Detroit.

A few years later, Toyota and Japan, Inc. would polish off the job, began in 1967...

28 posted on 07/05/2013 9:49:00 PM PDT by Netz
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29 posted on 07/05/2013 9:49:15 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
so many of these riots were not spontaneous, they were planned.

Ever notice how they stopped once the Soviet Union collapsed?

30 posted on 07/05/2013 9:49:43 PM PDT by fso301
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To: MNDude

There were tons of activists (Black Panthers, Black Muslims, etc) that were whipping up the fever to get “our” fair share. Hot summers, a social match lit here or there and the riots would take off. And the community activists lighting the matches were most often self serving egoists (sound familiar with our POTUS?)

As some one said above, always in their own neighborhoods which set their cause back yet farther.

One of the more interesting books I read that discusses that era is David Horowitz’s biography “Radical Son: A Generational Odyssey”. Horowitz was raised by American Communists in the 1950’s on Long Island. Like a duck to water, he took to all the social movements of the 60’s - living in Oakland CA, until the hypocrisy woke him up.


31 posted on 07/05/2013 9:52:07 PM PDT by llevrok (We are in a new Cold War. At home.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

During the Rodney King riots, I saw a thug being arrested by cops for assaulting and perhaps killing someone in the street. The newsperson shoved a microphone into the perp’s face and he shouted at the top of his lungs,

“Don’t mattah what I did, I’m a good person.”

And there you have it. Self-esteem training.


32 posted on 07/05/2013 9:53:59 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I worked in Compton on a short job in ‘74 and was extremely wary.

I lived in Compton throughout my teens. I grew antennas on my head and eyes in the back of my skull as a result. Those years left me with exceptional radar that's working to this very day.

33 posted on 07/05/2013 9:54:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MNDude

When the Watts riots broke out, we were in Germany—and they made the headlines there. Outside the hotel where I was staying at the corner of Heidelberger and Moosberg in Darmstadt—halfway around the world from Watts—I heard someone out on the street shout, “burn, baby, burn”!


34 posted on 07/05/2013 9:55:12 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: MNDude

Look up the Algiers Motel incident in Detroit. Others were Sea Side, Ca., Watts in L.A. and other locales across the country, including Poughkeepsie, NY.


35 posted on 07/05/2013 9:55:55 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul the usual suspects!)
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To: Argus

Anyone remember when Bobby Kennedy was killed? About the same time the feds raided an unlicensed machine gun manufacturing firm in so Cal. It was said LBJ knew of it and the guns were sent to South and Central America.


36 posted on 07/05/2013 9:57:32 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: MNDude

The first violent race riots occurred on a small scale in 1963-64 in southern and northern cities including New York and Chicago centered around police treatment of black people.

Grievances against the police for real or rumored wrongs could bring a crowd onto the streets leading to small scale disturbances.

Sometimes a peaceful racial protest would get out of hand.

The small riots of 63 and 64 were followed after a lull for the 1964 election campaign by the bigger riots punctuated by Watts (LA) in 1965 and Detroit and Newark, NJ in 1967.

Nationwide rioting followed the assassination of MLK in April 1968 with dozens killed and hundreds of millions in damage involving many cities including Baltimore, Washington DC and Chicago.

After the massive race riots energy moved to anti-war protests and riots for the next few years but racial rioting did spread to smaller cities like mine York, PA where two were killed and dozens injured in racial disturbances in July 1969.


37 posted on 07/05/2013 9:58:24 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Netz
previously, I used the term “Black”, you could do that then

Remember James Brown's "I'm Black And I'm Proud"?

38 posted on 07/05/2013 9:59:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: fso301
At the time, I heard that "burn, baby, burn" was an expression used by disc jockey Hunter Hancock on KGFJ, LA's premier R & B blaster at 1230 kilocycles on the AM band.
39 posted on 07/05/2013 9:59:51 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: rktman

The Watts riots weren’t about race!

It was a hit on businesses that refused to pay a protection racket and when the burning started the local animals got out of hand and began burning and looting.


40 posted on 07/05/2013 9:59:57 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: MNDude

My grandfather, uncle and their family (Americans of Japanese descent) ran and lived behind a small market right in the middle of the LA Watts riot in 1965. Even though we lived only 10 miles away there was nothing that could be done to help them.

Fortunately they had a great relationship with his neighborhood and suffered no harm or damage.

Not so good for others in the neighborhood, the main supermarket in the area burned down and they did not rebuild.


41 posted on 07/05/2013 10:00:18 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: circlecity

They won’t shoot you if they’re carrying a widescreen.


42 posted on 07/05/2013 10:01:02 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Mogger

Man, I had a chance to be stationed at Travis back in 1966! Now I’m glad I ended up in Roswell NM (Walker AFB)and later Little Rock.


43 posted on 07/05/2013 10:01:42 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

True.


44 posted on 07/05/2013 10:01:56 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I was born in ‘51 and raised in upstate NY. No race riots there, but I remember them on the TV every single night for what seemed like forever. It felt like they might have occurred on Mars for all the effect it had on us. However, getting sucker-punched in the face in downtown Ithaca and watching the race riots taught me to stay out of inner cities at a young age. I worked in Compton on a short job in ‘74 and was extremely wary.


I was born in ‘51, too. I was growing up on a ranch during those riots. They had no effect on us, either. We carried guns around in the pick up’s but they were for hunting or rattle snakes.

I learned about race relations in the Army.


45 posted on 07/05/2013 10:02:37 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: boycott

Blacks didn’t riot in Atlanta.


46 posted on 07/05/2013 10:04:37 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: smoothsailing

My late husband had to go to DC on business during that time. NASA officials warned him what areas to avoid. He said it was terrible up there.


47 posted on 07/05/2013 10:05:00 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Charles Henrickson
(BTW, I date 1965 as the start of the decline of the American culture.

Although my date for the start of the decline of American culture is November 8, 1960, when JFK was elected, one can make a powerful argument for 1965.

48 posted on 07/05/2013 10:07:21 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: MNDude
It goes back farther than that. Here is a cartoon from the 1940s.


49 posted on 07/05/2013 10:08:25 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Fiji Hill
At the time, I heard that "burn, baby, burn" was an expression used by disc jockey Hunter Hancock on KGFJ, LA's premier R & B blaster at 1230 kilocycles on the AM band.

He may have coined it but it made it's way into the vernacular of radical leftists like Obama's good friend Bill Ayers.

50 posted on 07/05/2013 10:10:18 PM PDT by fso301
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