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Vanity: Disappointed in Cheney

Posted on 06/16/2013 11:38:32 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55

After watching former Vice President Dick Cheney I'm very disappointed.

He defended the NSA Surveillance Program by saying he started it in 2004.

But what Cheney fails to realize is.. he and George W. Bush are NOT in office anymore.

Whatever the program was, when he was in charge has been CHANGED and EXPANDED.

Obama is now in charge and Cheney is out of the national security loop. How can he defend this program?

I love Dick Cheney but this is beyond the pale!


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1 posted on 06/16/2013 11:38:32 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

Plus he’s also advocating intervention in Syria and saying “John McCain has it about right?”

Sheesh!


2 posted on 06/16/2013 11:39:46 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55; Bayard; EveningStar; TigerClaws

ping


3 posted on 06/16/2013 11:40:50 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

Another rich guy who thinks Obama’s America is no big deal. He’ll never suffer because of it, why should he be worried?


4 posted on 06/16/2013 11:41:07 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: ConservativeMan55

Things have changed alot in 5 years, most of all the attitude of the executive branch towards the American people. Perhaps Cheney, dealing with health problems and living outside the beltway, is not fully aware of this.


5 posted on 06/16/2013 11:41:34 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: jjotto

He’s not a part of the government now.. so how can he defend what’s going on NOW?

He has no clue what information they are collecting now.


6 posted on 06/16/2013 11:42:01 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: skeeter

I think he’s living off the grid. But Cheney’s not stupid. He HAS to know why people are upset.


7 posted on 06/16/2013 11:42:47 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55
The big revelation -- and some people are a little slow in coming to this -- is that the Political Establishment is the Political Establishment.

There is no "Democrat".
There is no "Republican".
There is no "Hard Left".
There is no "Hard Right".

Of course, not everyone gets along, and Cheney may not really like Obama, or Boehner, or whomever -- but Cheney believes that Washington should run your life. Bush believes that. McCain believes that. Obama believes that. Valerie Jarrett believes that.

There is a reasonable chance that Sarah Palin does not believe that -- which is probably why the entire political class zipped into overdrive to make sure that she had no role in national government at all. They crushed her double-quick.

Because the Political Establishment want to control your entire life. You are not allowed to rise to the top (and Cheney was at the top for decades) unless you think that way.

8 posted on 06/16/2013 11:44:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ConservativeMan55
I don't see why you are surprised, Cheney is an elitist statist while the Rats are socialist statists.

Neither are on your side, or ever have been.

9 posted on 06/16/2013 11:46:07 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

The problem is not the program. The problem is the current occupant of the WH and his staff. In the corrupt hands of people like this, any and all programs will be misused.


10 posted on 06/16/2013 11:47:33 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: ConservativeMan55
We have seen this over and over again.

Insiders and former insiders appear to be too close to the situation and too biased by their idea of how thing used to work to see the BIG picture (to see Obama for the corrupt liar he is and to see the coup taking place before their very eyes).

Very clever on the part of the Commies...in fact, clever to an almost Satanic level of smoothness.

11 posted on 06/16/2013 11:48:16 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Or maybe he’s just being realistic. Since the NSA was founded they’ve done what they want when they want with very little if any actual supervision. They were no cleaner when he and Bush were in the White House than they are now. Any organization that has the job of collecting secrets will never be under the control of people with public lives that fear secrets being revealed.


12 posted on 06/16/2013 11:48:23 AM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: oldbrowser

Exactly I’ll agree with you on that.

But as long as you have the program.. there’s a chance it will be misused.

Are you willing to sacrifice liberty for freedom?


13 posted on 06/16/2013 11:49:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55
People don't remember, Cheney was never a conservative, throughout his career. he always worked for "liberals."

He worked for Nixon, then he was Chief of Staff for Ford. Then he was Secretary of Defense for Bush 41. If you worked for those people, you probably hate conservatives.

14 posted on 06/16/2013 11:49:45 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: discostu

Did you hear what Rep Steve King said on Glenn Beck Friday?

He said many Democrat political organizations KNEW about Conservative political organizations. They could tell them who they were emailing, what they were looking at online, etc.

Obama’s taken the program and used it for his own political power.


15 posted on 06/16/2013 11:50:36 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ClearCase_guy
You sound like a libertarian.
Here's another:

“Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.”---George Washington

16 posted on 06/16/2013 11:51:26 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head regarding Palin.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3031746/posts


17 posted on 06/16/2013 11:51:49 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55
After watching former Vice President Dick Cheney I'm very disappointed.

You will find many, many supporters for that position here on FR. But not me.

Cheney is no angel but compared to the vast majority of Republicans and all Democrats he still looks good to me. As a test, name all the Republicans who are more trustworthy than Cheney. For most Freepers that is very short list. Sarah, Ted and the no longer with us Ronald and a couple others and that's it. All the rest are just lumped together and thrown under the bus and that includes Cheney and Bush.

That's a formula for a Perfect Storm in 2014 and 2016 - if you're a Democrat.

18 posted on 06/16/2013 11:52:30 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: InterceptPoint

I’m disappointed in him. But I wish he could see what we see.


19 posted on 06/16/2013 11:53:40 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ClearCase_guy
Everything you say is true except it omits one major point.

Obama is the one putting the mosques beyond the eyes of the intel apparatus. He is the one saying that our enemies are not jihadis but patriots. He is the one eliminating the linkage between islam and terrorism. He is the one installing John Brennan, muslim, as DCI.

Obama is the one who has redefined the enemy as conservatives, patriots, Christians, and Jews.

20 posted on 06/16/2013 11:54:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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