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They've been listening for years
vanity | 06-07-2013 | chuckles

Posted on 06/08/2013 2:15:41 AM PDT by chuckles

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1 posted on 06/08/2013 2:15:42 AM PDT by chuckles
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IIRC one of the laws passed to deal with the internet (Millinieum ACT maybe?) mandated that the system would have a back door for the Government Security agencies to use that eliminated the need for doing physical wire taps. IOW such could be done by entering a few commands and one could monitor net traffice and phone calls via the “backbone”


2 posted on 06/08/2013 2:20:07 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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I'm sure I just triggered it.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

The feds may have the technology, but they'll probably BOMB the actual use of it. So I wouldn't live in TERROR of them. If you do, you're likely to get all stressed out and just BLOW UP emotionally.

Especially if you have an EXPLOSIVE temperament.

Well, I guess I'd better wrap this post up before others think I'm just pontificating and start engaging in character ASSASSINATION.

Heh.

3 posted on 06/08/2013 2:34:38 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

Just stay away from me. Is that a drone I hear?


4 posted on 06/08/2013 2:39:21 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Jeff Winston

Careful- You might become a TARGET and they’ll put you in their CROSSHAIRS and come GUNNING for you. And all you spelling NAZIS out there - I don’t care if you make me a CASUALTY of your SCARE TACTICS.

On a more serious note, I wonder if encryption technologies will increase as a standard offering of software packages in the near future. To COMBAT against spammers and hackers of course.


5 posted on 06/08/2013 2:45:51 AM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: 21twelve

The government already requires that it be provided the keys to new encryption techniques. They are very persuasive.


6 posted on 06/08/2013 3:49:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: chuckles

If you were to be able to hear the drone, you’d have already been dead. It would just be making the fly-by to get the damage assessment.... :)


7 posted on 06/08/2013 3:51:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

If you heard the drone,your neighbor was the target.


8 posted on 06/08/2013 3:55:37 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

That’s true too!


9 posted on 06/08/2013 3:59:03 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: chuckles

They are allowed to listen in to calls going overseas, as soon as that communication crosses the border.

They use tricks though, like saying they can’t tell if a call goes over satellite whether it is domestic or foreign.

There are also calls that go to tech support which has a US number, but they go overseas. All of those were completely fair game.

Bottom line, it seems that when in doubt, they listen.


10 posted on 06/08/2013 4:15:33 AM PDT by dila813
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To: chuckles

Right after 9/11 my family joked about talking on the phone and being tapped.


11 posted on 06/08/2013 4:25:50 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: chuckles

In the past I’ve been a little more radical, lol, and libertarian. In the early days of widespread internet usage, mid-nineties, it was common among some to deliberately use a list of keywords, even bury it in code, in order to “jam” ECHELON.

How quickly we forget.


12 posted on 06/08/2013 4:37:53 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: chuckles

The Tea Party is here:
http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=27814627

The denial of IRS org’s limits the ability to broker space for rallies.

And I have also seen the fed cage’s on AT&T’s fiber loop. They have very expensive boxes. Secondarily, I have seen them upstream at core infrastructure providers.

I didn’t complain about it myself. I just knew if you screwed with it, you would get a call and a visit from the Feds. I don’t mind the equipment. I do mind that is a blanket tracking system with no respect for search and siezure.

A case can be made for a blanket sweep as a perimeter defense, say if a nuke is being smuggled in. But that too requires a court order for a limited time. The Verizon tap for instance, via the FBI, was INTERNAL monitoring- not external. Which means they aren’t protecting us from the outside, they are protecting themselves from us. That dog don’t hunt.


13 posted on 06/08/2013 4:44:35 AM PDT by JFoobar
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And those who brought it up then were deemed crackpots.

The truth is that conservatives took their eye off the ball when their guy was in office, and it’s not surprising that liberals really want to look the other way now.


14 posted on 06/08/2013 4:47:39 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: chuckles

The internet was started by the government, no? (Al Gore invented it.) I hardly think it strange to have its tentacles firmly embedded in all digital transmissions.


15 posted on 06/08/2013 5:04:40 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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16 posted on 06/08/2013 5:16:23 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: chuckles

The danger here isn’t so much in the collection of all this data but rather in who is doing the analysis and then taking action. Can you say ‘IRS’...? Remember it’s the govt and they’re only here to help.


17 posted on 06/08/2013 6:03:54 AM PDT by meangene
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Truth is, many exchanged private purchasing habits data and patterns to Marketers and received “air miles” or “points”. This has been a practise since the 1980’s.
Then, we exchanged even more private information to access “free” stuff like gmail, google+, chrome, facebook, hotmail, etc., etc., etc!!

What we HAVE NOT agreed to is access to our personal data and information so that one political party can massage a message to manipulate voters, or identify and political adversaries for retribution from the IRS, EPA, OSHA, DHS, HHS, Dept. of Education, and any other Federal Department.


18 posted on 06/08/2013 6:04:02 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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There is no reason to believe the Chinks have not already accessed that data as well. It’d be the “Fort Knox” of information.


19 posted on 06/08/2013 6:31:34 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Gaffer

They don’t need the keys. Just makes it easier for them to sift this stuff through the real time equipment.

Encryption is the dog that didn’t bark.

When was the last time you heard someone in fed law enforcement complain about civilian use of encryption? I’m counting between 10 and 12 years.

The dog that didn’t bark. This tells us when, approximately, they developed the ability to completely decrypt on a wide scale and implement that in real time.


20 posted on 06/08/2013 6:33:33 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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