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Studies examine clues of transoceanic contact [PreColumbian voyagers]

1 posted on 05/26/2013 9:24:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
The largest ever genetic study of native South Americans identified a sub-population in Ecuador with an unexpected link to eastern Asia.

Wouldn't such populations be more likely found in Washington or BC? Hell of a long way to Ecuador.

Kind of like the "Viking remains" found in Minnesota. Lot of work to struggle inland for such a distance.

3 posted on 05/26/2013 9:28:44 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SunkenCiv

I think it is unlikely they crossed the ocean in a linear fashion. More likely they used the Japanese current and roughly followed the North American coast and then down into Central America.


4 posted on 05/26/2013 9:29:32 PM PDT by Madhattan
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To: muawiyah

must read tomorrow jomon


5 posted on 05/26/2013 9:40:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SunkenCiv
Way back in the 70s the only authoried way to get OLD WORLD people to the NEW WORLD was by walking ~ but 6,000 years ago they'd had to come by boat. Most archaeologists with an interest in the jomon pottery attributed it to earlier contact, on foot, between 16,000 and 20,000 years ago.

We've seen a much more recent 'explanation' for Sa'ami genes in the Americas where another group with related ancestry, managed to cross Beringia with the ancestors of the Indians back then ~ and I think the guy even used the Jomon pottery as part of his evidence.

Will dig that one up ~

Over time there have been thousands of large Pacific tsunamis that explain all Transpacific movements of East Asians to the Americans. They didn't need to walk ~ just a debris field. Thought it interesting archaeologists had been saying the ocean currents weren't sufficient to get folks from there to here, yet those currents were able to move an entire floating dock unit from Japan to Oregon!

More importantly, the ancestors of the culture bearers among the Polynesians, the Okinawans, Taiwanese, non-Jomon Japanese, as well as the Philippinos came from the same place in China across the strait from Taiwan. The land there gradually sinks ~ the people had to learn to use satisfactory boats to continue to live among the islands and raise wheat ~ rice not being capable of being farmed there.

The Sa'ami arrived far earlier!

6 posted on 05/26/2013 9:51:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam

Japanese in South America 6000 yrs ago ping


12 posted on 05/27/2013 3:47:29 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: SunkenCiv

I remember [yes, I am that old] when I read an article in a popular news magazine (Time?) about how the LASER was fascinating but was currently “a solution looking for a problem to solve.” Similarly, the solution of the DNA puzzle in 1953 by Watson & Crick (and Franklin) was regarded as a scientific triumph but of little import outside the field that became biochemistry.

Now like the LASER, DNA has revolutionized fields from genetics to criminology!


15 posted on 05/27/2013 6:02:59 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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To: SunkenCiv
“no amount of evidence” could convince them...

Irrelevant. Better would be They would not accept any "amount of evidence." There's a difference.

16 posted on 05/27/2013 7:04:15 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: SunkenCiv

The ubiquity of pyramids is because the pyramid is the structure that is a natural for tall buildings when you don’t have steel for beams and girders. You stack one layer on another. Experience early teaches that the second and subsequent layers must be of progressively less area in order for it to not disintegrate around the sides. You either build it with step sides or you fair it to smooth. Rulers always want to get above their subjects or so place their gods with whom they identify. When agricultural people have enough surplus to support rulers in idleness those rulers magnify themselves and pyramids are the natural structures to reach up to heaven.


18 posted on 05/27/2013 7:14:26 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: SunkenCiv

20 posted on 05/27/2013 7:22:39 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: SunkenCiv
DID JAPANESE FISHERMEN DISCOVER AMERICA 5,000 YEARS AGO?


22 posted on 05/27/2013 12:40:46 PM PDT by Theoria
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