Posted on 04/20/2013 10:35:31 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
In light of recent events in Boston I believe this should have implications on the raging gun control debate. The city issued a Shelter in Place order. This affected upwards of a million people. Now think about that. A definate bad guy is on the run with a massive police search going on to eliminate this menace to society. I have no bones about issuing the shelter in place order as people mulling around would complicated the search. I do have a problem with the people that would have you set there totally defensless at the mercy of events.
It is not credible to think that if this guy had come storming into someones house that the police would be able to get there in time to protect you. A best case scenario would be you would be taken hostage. I would love to see a poll of the greater Boston area today asking people if they would feel safer with a gun in thier home. The people that didn't have one still benefited from the bad guy not knowing if he kicked a door in if someone would be sitting there with gun in hand. I'm pretty sure that the people who owned guns were armed during this nightmare.
Now I think everyone should call their Senators and Congressmen and ask them "would you have felt safer being armed in a situation like this"
” What about when the SWAT team shows up at your front door for a search without a warrant? What happens if you refuse? What happens if you agree and they do more than they say? What information did they gather extraneous to searching for the terrorists?”
Good questions that I don’t have all the answers to but I do know that disarming all the law. abiding citizens is not the answer.
That's what many are asking themselves. I can see asking that people stay indoors for their own safety and so the cops can canvas the neighborhood. Letting them in my house.... that is a slippery slope. Will they be coming back to confiscate x,y,z they saw that I had? Will they plant something illegal and frame me later? If we become immune to letting them in without warrants in emergency situations then will they think they can come in any time they wish without reason and during non-emergency situations. Who defines a what an emergency is?
This episode might well have turned into a hostage holding situation and even more deaths had things gone differently.
I suspect a lot of Massachusetts gun haters are reconsidering things today, will be if they have any sense, anyway.
I am curious how many people are being punished for violation of the “Shelter-in-Place” order.
” I suspect a lot of Massachusetts gun haters are reconsidering things today, will be if they have any sense, anyway.”
I certainly hope so. And I hope it’s a lot more than just Massachusetts.
That has been on my mind too. The 4th and 5th Amendments seem to be all but dead now. Hopefully a significant percentage of the population would consider a "Shelter In Place" order for gun confiscation to be a more dangerous reason and immediately take action to make it more dangerous. By an order of magnitude.
Orin Kerr over at The Volokh Conspiracy started a discussion about this
House-to-House Searches and the Fourth Amendment
http://www.volokh.com/2013/04/19/house-to-house-searches-and-the-fourth-amendment/
Look at it from the government’s point of view:
They can get a whole lot more money to do it this way!
Once disarmament of the populace is accepted then the taxes to pay for this kind of operation are obviously neccessary.
I bet Mass. eventually gets federal dollars- from the rest of us- for this fiasco of a response.
The “Pro-Gun” Provisions of Manchin-Toomey are Actually a Bonanza of Gun Control
You probably saw it already.
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