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Is my propane company committing fraud or creating a safety hazard? (New Hampshire vanity)
My propane tank | 2-6-2013 | AlmaKing

Posted on 02/06/2013 8:52:17 PM PST by AlmaKing

Yes, this is a vanity, but I figure some Freepers might have better answers than what I'm finding in web searches.

EnergyNorth Propane made a delivery to my tank this morning. My tank was already 70% full. I have not been using my furnace for heating this winter, not once. I've relied on 2 space heaters, so I have essentially converted to 100% electric heat which is a lot cheaper than using the propane furnace that came with the house.

The bill indicated 70 gallons of propane was delivered at $3.17 per gallon and also indicated the initial tank fill percentage was 70% and the final fill percentage was 80%. I knew something was wrong because my tank holds only 220 gallons and 70 gallons would be a 30% fill-up.

I inspected the regulator and found the tank fill percentage was 100%. I took pictures of this. Per my contract, they are supposed to fill the tank to a max of 80% to avoid leakage.

They've done this two months in a row. They know I have not used propane for the whole winter, so they're losing money on me.

Is this billing illegal?

Is filling a residential propane tank to 100% capacity a safety hazard and/or illegal?


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To: Jim from C-Town

It would appear to me that even a filling contract should not give the provider permission to try to add anything else to an already filled tank and thus would grant no permission to bill for it (unless there is an overall periodic fee or minimum filling charge). The contract only gives the provider the right to refill your tank if it is possible. Not the right to overfill the tank past recognized safety standards. In the meantime you are free to wild-cat fill the tank by any service you please at any time including immediately in advance of the contract visits. So depending on specifics, the contract may or may not mean much.


81 posted on 02/07/2013 4:46:13 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Jim from C-Town
If you have it at 68 put it at 62. You will become accustomed to the lower temperature quickly.

Tell my wife that. From Bombay where it is 90F year round. Regardless of where they're from, many older people could not tolerate 62 indoors. Britain has customarily had lower indoor temp settings but the elderly have always been a wreck, even before NHS. Here, with Obamacare in the implementation stage it's not a good idea to make yourself sick.

IE: everyone at work or school, lower the thermostat to 60 or 58 when you are out of the house and raise it when you come home.

Poor strategy if you have a heat pump/furnace combo. Unless the system includes an outside thermostat, the furnace is going to be used to bring the temp back up at great energy cost. If the temperature was allowed to stay at the higher level the heat pump could maintain it at lower cost. These scenarios have been extensively modeled by the DOE.

82 posted on 02/07/2013 4:52:04 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Whatever.


83 posted on 02/07/2013 6:18:04 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You mentioned the window in the door not me.


84 posted on 02/07/2013 6:19:15 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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