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Question for someone familiar with a Colt 10mm
My Desk | 01/24/2013 | Abathar

Posted on 01/24/2013 7:00:25 AM PST by Abathar

I was hoping someone was familiar with the Colt Delta Elite 10mm and could tell me if this is a decent investment or not. I am thinking of buying my neighbors that he was going to put on the market asking $750 for, it comes with about 400 rounds of Hornady ammo also.

It looks to be in really nice condition, he told me he bought it new and hadn't put 100 rounds through it. My biggest question is how does the 10mm stand up against the .45, and is that a ridiculous price or not? I really love the feel of it, he has the original grips for it but Pachmayr rubber grips on it now.

It is also stamped on the side "Gold Cup", but I really don't know what that means. It has the bright finish which I'm really not too keen on but other than that it seems to function quite well.


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To: Abathar

Do a search on Colt 10mm gold cup.

I understand the older ones had reliability problems.


21 posted on 01/24/2013 7:35:32 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Abathar
My 2 cents worth.
10mm and 40S&W are almost the same. 10mm being .125” (1/8”) longer. Bullet is the same. 10mm is about 10% faster, depending on bullet and powder loaded.
Compared to 45acp, 10mm is about 25%-30% faster. Again depending on bullet and. powder.
10mm and 40S&W bullet range in weight from 135 grains to 175 grains. Both are .400” in diameter.
45acp bullet ranges from 185 to 225 grains in weight.
45acp are all .452” in diameter.
Size vs Speed.
Shot placement is really the most important thing.
In 1865 Wild Bill Hickok kille Davis Tuck with a single shot from a 36 caliber Navy Colt a 75 YARDS. 36 caliber loaded ith black powder. That bullet probably stepped out at about 750 feet per second or less. That is shot placement.
22 posted on 01/24/2013 7:40:06 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Abathar

I seem to recall that the Delta Elite had some issues with “frame battering,” but if you use a high quality recoil spring and frame buffers, you should be OK.

Colt’s “Gold Cup” line is their “Match” version of the standard pistols, though they don’t have the same level of hand fitting as some “Match” pistols by Kimber or a custom gunsmith like Clark or Wilson.

But all in all, it’s a really fine weapon, and at less than $1000, it sounds like a great deal.

Mark


23 posted on 01/24/2013 7:43:54 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: stuartcr

Thanks, Looks like I’m going to buy it, try it out and if I’m not happy it seems I won’t lose out to do a quick turn and burn.


24 posted on 01/24/2013 7:45:30 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar
That sounds smart to me. My son got a smoking deal on a Kimber last summer and really disliked it. Sold it and made a couple of hundred dollars.
25 posted on 01/24/2013 7:49:58 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Abathar

Take it. Take it now. The 10 mm, loaded to its true capability is a real show-stopper. Definitely scavenge and reload the brass you’re going to get with it. I’ve owned a Glock mod 20 for almost two decades now, and it’s an accurate, hard-hitting weapon. That’s what’s in my 72 hour kit along with 5 15 round mags full of carefully hoarded Black Talon ammo.

10 mm brass isn’t too hard to come by for now. Primers, that’s another story. Buy all you can when you can.


26 posted on 01/24/2013 8:03:25 AM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
...unless you routinely shoot at cars or through metal doors.

I've got 10mm loads for just that purpose.

27 posted on 01/24/2013 8:05:14 AM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: Abathar

As long as the bore looks good and it is good condition I would JUMP on that deal. It’s kind of an off caliber in that it’s not mainstream so you will probably be pressed to find plentiful ammo for it, but I would still grab it. Would be nice to have.

As far as an “investment” I don’t buy firearms with the purpose of reselling them. I buy them to shoot them. I don’t buy safe queen and that is still a good deal!


28 posted on 01/24/2013 8:05:38 AM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: SampleMan

Instinctively, I also though 10 mm would be hard to find...

...but as I sat in Cabella’s last night, waiting an hour for my ‘15 minute’ background check, I noticed lots of 10 mm on the shelves. Sometimes being ther odd man out is helpful.

BTW, they had .40...but ask for 9 mm, and the employees just chuckle.


29 posted on 01/24/2013 8:07:40 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Abathar

I predict you’ll keep it. Ammo was not a problem in rational times but handloading in these days might be mandatory (not just for 10MM). I’m retraining myself.


30 posted on 01/24/2013 8:08:22 AM PST by norton
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To: Abathar

Get it.
GET IT NOW.
Get it before somebody tells him what it’s really worth.


31 posted on 01/24/2013 8:21:56 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: lacrew
Sometimes being ther odd man out is helpful.

Excellent point. I use the same principle, as I can find .257 Roberts and various European military calibers about as easy now as ever. Another plus for owning a variety of weapons.

32 posted on 01/24/2013 8:31:50 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: lacrew

I’m a .357 9mm man myself. I can’t find a cherry Winchester ‘94 in .357 anywhere.


33 posted on 01/24/2013 8:42:37 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: SampleMan

I agree....ballistically, I have no argument on its merits. You DO pay more for the COLT name, but I’ll tell you one thing, try going to Walmart and get some of that 10mm Ammo and see..I don’t recall ever seeing it.

So, if 400 rounds of Hornady 10mm is good enough for you and you don’t intend to blow 100-200 rounds at the range regularly, go for it. If you want .40 S&W, that’s probably the least selling of the handgun rounds at WM...they were that last to go at the three WM stores I frequent to see what ammo they have. But even all that is gone now. I was in a WM today, the only stuff I saw what .410 shot and some 12 Gauge stuff....not even 22 shorts!


34 posted on 01/24/2013 8:46:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Abathar

A 10mm is an equalizer if your attacker has body armor or is on drugs.
My choice to carry when black bears are around while fishing in Alaska.


35 posted on 01/24/2013 8:46:58 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Abathar

I once had two of them and also an Auto Ordnance in 10mm. I didn’t even know they made a Gold Cup in the Delta Elite 10mm series.

The Auto Ordnance was far better made than their .45s. I guess they figured it would have to be to handle that hot round.

I never had any problem with any of them.

I also had a .45 Gold Cup and could never tell it was any better than Colt’s regular 1911s. When I traded it off, I did get more for it.


36 posted on 01/24/2013 9:10:26 AM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Abathar

The Delta Elite was the 10mm version of Colt’s 1911. I didn’t know they made them in Gold Cup version. Colt Gold Cup was the high end 1911 with premium trigger and adjustable sights.

10mm is a good round but in modern loadings not much more powerful than a strong 45ACP load. Some custom loaders do offer hotter loads, but you will need a stronger spring setup for them.

Good price with the ammo.

Do some checking as early models developed cracking in the frames from hot loads.


37 posted on 01/24/2013 9:18:32 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: Abathar

10mm is a great round, especially if you reload. It can be loaded over a very wide range of power - from a hot-ish .40, to 41 Magnum equivalent.

The included ammo is good stuff. Most factory ammo is expensive and low power. Buffalo Bore makes some very hot loads - good to get an idea of what the top end feels like, but not really something you’d want to shoot all day.


38 posted on 01/24/2013 9:32:08 AM PST by whatexit
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To: Abathar

Good shooter, and in a pinch you could shoot .40 cal rounds thru it. just remember to clean out the chamber after shooting the .40’s and going back to 10mm.


39 posted on 01/24/2013 9:50:38 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

Really?? Do you know someone who has tried it? I would hate to be the first guinea pig even though it says it will work on paper...


40 posted on 01/24/2013 10:11:55 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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