Posted on 11/20/2012 1:10:36 PM PST by albie
My 89 year old Mother in law (a conservative) is spending Thanksgiving with me and my family. My wife has requested that her looney left wing grandchildren be allowed to visit with "Granny" on Saturday. They voted Obama and are in their 20's and are actually very nice people. However, I've made it clear that I can not tolerate Obama voters in my house. Nice or not, family or otherwise. I'm still on the fence because I do love my Mother in law. What do you think? Also, are there others with similar problems?
I understand and try to.
One of my daughters is a Freeper also! Thank God! I don’t feel like a total failure as a mother...
I tell ya, they had barrels all over the store like they were just giving it away.
If I had only known....
My family voted for Romney in 2012, McCain in 2008, Bush in 200,2004 and Bush in 1992. And Conservatives in the State races. And so did I. If that is voting to destroy the Country, so be it. I plead guilty. You got me.
If my liberal sister in law shows up for dinner
I will be playing this on my hubbies video game computer that sits in the dinning room (huge monitor with very loud speakers )
http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/66-40/listen/11-12-2012-thanksgiving-part-1-308672.html
http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/66-40/listen/11-13-2012-thanksgiving-part-2-308673.html
http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/66-40/listen/11-14-2012-thanksgiving-part-3-308674.html
http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/66-40/listen/11-15-2012-thanksgiving-part-4-308675.html
She’ll get an education while we eat or she will leave =P
That I can agree with. There is no excuse for your elderly neighbors. They were educated before the public school system was corrupted.
You forget just how many in this country flirted with Communism in the 1930s.
I've got a very lib step-daughter who never shies away from voicing her liberal convictions. But I have to bite my tongue, because if I get into an argument i.e. friendly discussion about politics, she gets perturbed and has shut out other family members (like her mother-in-law) for trivialities. I wouldn't want to be responsbible for my wife not being able to see her grandchildren. So I smile and say nothing when she says stupid things.
“nation is falling apart - but I would like to know, is there a point where you draw the line in the sand?
You just said it: When the nation is at stake it is time to put away the pleasantries and bare the fangs.
The election is over. Your family is still your family.
Be gracious and avoid the topic of politics.
“If I eliminated Obama voters from my life, I’d be pretty lonely.”
My parents are conservatives, they were even friends of the Reagans, however, my siblings, not so much. All are Obama voters even though they talk a good game about not being Obama voters. Interestingly, all of them also rely on my parents for free money to some degree. I don’t and never have.
Am I loney? Nope. I could live in a cave all by myself. Not having those freeloaders in my life has been great. I cut them off about six years ago and things couldn’t be better in that department.
No joke! One delivery truckload of that = Early retirement!
Best wishes and God bless you. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving, whatever you choose to do!
“and are actually very nice people.”
No, Obemba voters are NOT nice people. If they voted for Obemba then they are ENEMIES and should be treated thusly.
I have a stepson who is a liberal/Obemba voter. He knows the he is not to bring up politics while he will be here this weekend. His mother has already informed him that if he does, I’ll run him the hell out of my house.
My entire family will tell you quickly that I am a hardheaded a-hole. Once I draw the line, that's it. My mother would not be allowed on my property if she supported obama and she knows it. We have parted ways for several years before over less.
This is WAR for the survival of the Republic which equals freedom and liberty for all.
An opportunity to educate.
Don’t let the reelection of the jackass turn you into a bitter family member. It’s not a requirement to regain our Liberties.
I have a sister, in fact, my only sister,that I haven’t spoken to in years because of her liberal political views. I don’t care if they are family or not, I have drawn the line, you are either with us or you are against us.
With good dogs you are never alone.
Create a stink and don’t let the kids visit. Now, suppose Granny kicks the bucket the day after Thanksgiving.
The wife would not be pleased.
One day they may see the light. How you treat them in the meantime could determine how hard or easy it will be for them to admit you were right.
I don’t know about how many of them flirted with communism. You mean the Progressives? The thirties were just not ever covered when I was in school. They used to end the history with WWI, saying that WWII was not far enough in the past to evaluate either the run up to it, the war itself or the aftermath. Heck they barely even covered the depression, except to say that it happened as a result of traders buying on margin.
That’s part of the reason that I was so interested in reading the book, In the Garden of the Beasts. It was written from actual journals of the ambassador to Germany during the thirties.
For guidance on this issue consider the Thanksgiving scene from Atlas Shrugged.
Not only that, but we were an assassins’ bullet away from potentially having a Fascist dictatorship under Huey Long.
You can be cordial. Cordial is non-commital, changes the subject when the awkward and contriverisal is raised. Cordial does not particularly like the person, but embraces the situation or the holiday and stands above the pettiness of disagreements.
Are you that obtuse? Maybe an accountant, and attorney, or a bureacurat, totally unable to deal in the hypthetical of a message board thread? Unable to follow a conversation?
Apparently you are. You never did understand the natural progression of this conversation. Bye.
If “pettiness of disagreement” is how you define voting for Obama, you are totally clueless as to the dire situation the nation is in. Totally.
Tootalu.
The election is over, so all is fine and dandy now? You don’t understand the mind of the liberal nor the consequences of elections.....
Treat them the way they think. After they fill their plates and sit down, confiscate half the food and tell them you are donating it to the homeless.
If they complain, tell them they are greedy evil bastards that don’t want to pay their fair share.
Buy or rent tents for them to stay in outside the house and call it “Occupy My Lawn” and inform them if they complain they are nothing but 1% greedy evil bastards that hate the poor and want college kids to have to pay back their school loans.
Put a TAX on everything in the house they’ll use like toilet paper and ice and water, etc. Tell them you run a “progressive house”.
If they whine, call them evil Republicans.
Tolerate them until she leaves then kick ‘em out.
Never talk politics with a fool.
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Yes I consider voting for Hussein a mortal sin. Yes, I understand that the country is in dire straits. This is a short holiday meal with lifelong family members, not the Committee of Correspondence. Politics can be checked at the door.
Personally I think you are doing your 89 yr old MIL a favor by not inviting her liberal grandkids over. How depressing to know that your GKs voted for Obama. My mom was VERY conservative and it would have killed her during her last years to find out that any of her family was stupid enough to vote for Obama. Fortunately everyone in the immediate family is conservative so we don’t need to deal with any liberals during the holidays. Legacy is important to people in the twilight of their life and I think it is important that your MIL be surrounded with family who will reflect her conservative values and won’t cause her distress. Just remember those Grand kids knowingly voted for a guy who would give their grandma a pill instead of medical treatment so they can have free birth control and student debt relief.
“The election is over. Your family is still your family.”
The election may be over but we now are stuck with dealing with the consequences of that election brought about by the liberal dopes that voted for Obama. I doubt I would be able to sit at the same table with any of them.
Again, if you think politics can be checked at the door, I still say you are clueless as to the dire situation the country is in. Nothing is petty, and nothing can be “checked at the door” in a nation that is falling apart. That is my point. You don’t get it. You think it’s bad, but you don’t understand how serious it is.
That’s fine. You will soon enough.
Good for you. Tell her maybe Michelle will save her some from the White House “garden”.
Play Rush replay all day.
Have them over and rip the bark off their backsides.This bullshit of being nice to family who are idiots is plain stupid.Just remember your immediate family will suffer because of their stupidity.Got the right frame of mind yet?I have a stupid brother that I plan to rip the bark off during Christmas in Texas.I suffer no liberals and that includes supposed family.
keep a taser and pepper spray nearby in case he gets obnoxious
Again, if you think politics can be checked at the door, I still say you are clueless as to the dire situation the country is in. Nothing is petty, and nothing can be “checked at the door” in a nation that is falling apart. That is my point. You don’t get it. You think it’s bad, but you don’t understand how serious it is.
That’s fine. You will soon enough.
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I understand how bad it is. I am not a drama queen about it but I understand. CWII will make CWI look like a walk in the park.
Good point.
Never give animals the oppurtunity.
:)
You could always invite them over to visit while making crystal clear to them (not her) that you are only doing it as a concession to your regard for her. I see lots of talk about family, but I don’t think “family” votes to use the state to steal your wealth and liberty.
“However, I’ve made it clear that I can not tolerate Obama voters in my house.”
They can meet her out in the front yard, the barn, or a handy tool shed. Perhaps a car port. Sophistry, but it allows you to keep your word and still act in an accommodating way towards the Bolshevists.
You done good livius,you done good.
Hypothetical: You’re a 20-something conservative. You want to visit your 89-year-old grandmother, whom you love even though she’s a liberal. Alas, she’s spending the holiday at the home of your uncle or stepfather, who’s a diehard leftist and who refuses to allow into his house anyone who didn’t vote for Obama.
Would this experience cause you, as a young conservative, to see the error of your ways, and realize that there were bad consequences to your conservatism, and have a conversion? Would you ask the family liberals where you can send a donation to help re-elect Al Franken?
Or would you just think that the Obama partisan was being a jerk?
Most of us would go with “jerk.” You should figure that, with the shoe on the other foot, the grandkids would answer the same way. You can believe that the country is in mortal danger and yet also believe that excluding these relatives from your house would do no practical good whatsoever.
Now that I think about it, my own grandfather was accused of being a communist and was reported to the HUAC and was investigated by the FBI for years. It was all a lie, though. It was the CIO that reported him.
My grandfather had been elected the first president of the Electrical Workers and Machinists at RCA and the CIO officials were not pleased. They tried to get him moved to management so that he couldn’t serve, but my grandfather refused. So, he was run down by a hit and run driver before he could take office, but he didn’t die.
RCA responded by closing the plant and moving to Indiana and the people of Camden County responded by electing my grandfather to the NJ State Assembly. He only served one term before the CIO accused him of being a communist. It was a particularly serious charge because my grandfather was the model maker for RCA and had a top security clearance. It just about ruined his life. I bet if he had been a communist, he would have been the only communist that was also an elder of the Methodist Church.
My wife is a Democrat. We manage to get along just fine. I don’t tell her how to vote, she doesn’t tell me how to vote, we agree to disagree about the things we disagree on and we always remember that at the end of the day our marriage means more to us then our politics.
Everybody is different I guess. Me, I think family is more important then politics. As somebody else on this thread pointed out, in a few years Obama will be ancient history, but your family will always be your family.
With due respect, this is not merely politics. If you think that is the case, you do not understand what is going on at all. If you think Obama will ever be ancient history, you do not know what is going on. I can only assume you have a job or an income stream that is temporarily immune to the destruction.
When an Obama Care bureaucrat pulls the plug on you, I wonder what you will think “politics” is about then?
I didn’t say everything was fine and dandy, and I’m painfully aware of the consequences of elections.
People can be civil for one day. I will be civil when I go to my MIL’s house for Thanksgiving with my idiot liberal brother-in-law. If I refuse to go, the state of the country will not change one iota and my MIL will be the one hurt. I choose not to do that to her.
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