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1 posted on 11/07/2012 9:30:26 AM PST by jackmercer
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Excellent. Glad to see some of us are accepting reality. Rasmussen is terrible and is just there to push a Conservative meme. Gallup has been a joke for years. The LV model is usually wrong, look to RVs. And, no, there wasn’t Dem oversampling. Time to drop the conspiracy theories fellow Conservatives. Time to ignore the whack jobs.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 9:36:44 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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If press accounts are true, Romney hadn’t even prepped a concession speech.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 9:37:02 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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I relied too much on Rasmussen and Dick Morris!


4 posted on 11/07/2012 9:37:27 AM PST by BobNative
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I screwed up the formatting. Here's the data in a more readable form.

2008 actual results: Obama +7.3

Polling outfits closest to 7.3: CNN/Opinion Research - off by 0.3
Ipsos/McClatchy - off by 0.3
Fox News - off by 0.3
IBD/TIPP - off by 0.7
NBC News/WSJ - off by 0.7


Rasmussen - off by 1.3
Pew Research - off by 1.3
GW University - off by 1.3


And Gallup - off by 3.7 (tied for worst) Fast forward to 2010 and we see that Rasmussen was third from last by being off 5.2 and Gallup was dead last by being off by 8.2 And this year, Obama is currently up about 2.22 points but that will likely increase to between 2.5 and 3 as west coast mail-ins are counted. Here are the major pollsters listed in order of accuracy this year

Ipsos/Reuters - Obama +2
PPP - Obama +2
DailyKos - Obama +2
YouGov - Obama +2
Pew - Obama +3
ABC/Wash Post - Obama +3
Angus-Reid - Obama +3
ABC/Post - Obama +3
UPI/CVOTER - Obama +1
IBD/TIPP - Obama +1
Gravis Marketing - tie
JZ Analytics/Newsmax - tie
Politico/GWU/Battleground - tie
Monmouth - tie
ARG - tie
CNN - tie
Rasmussen - Romney +1
Gallup - Romney +2

5 posted on 11/07/2012 9:37:43 AM PST by jackmercer
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Actually none of these guys predicted that Obama would get 9,000,000 fewer votes in 2012 than he got in 2008!

That's a really significant number

6 posted on 11/07/2012 9:38:30 AM PST by muawiyah
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You have to go with what most polls are saying now. Going with Rass was like picking the best performing mutual fund in the 90’s.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 9:39:16 AM PST by ari-freedom
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FREEPERS need to stop with the bull crap that polls are garbage. We got screwed because we didn’t believe the polls and got so dang arrogant. This was about the dumbest thing we did. Oh...the polls oversample....whatever.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 9:45:37 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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How about people stop with the ridiculous “these polls are skewed” crap. The polls weren’t skewed. There really is a high D+ response rate because there are more Democrats - and they turn out too.

Sites like unskewedpolls.com are pure comedy.

Bottom line, if we’re whining about polls we are losing. So knock it off.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 9:47:48 AM PST by Longbow1969
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