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I'm conservative (oh yea uh-huh) and pro-gay marriage and I want your ZOT!
8/3/12 | agooga

Posted on 08/03/2012 4:19:35 PM PDT by agooga

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To: CatherineofAragon

It’s like the guy in the commercial when asked to point out the angus area on the beef cut chart, “I’d rather not.”


81 posted on 08/03/2012 4:57:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: LukeL

Very well said, you.


82 posted on 08/03/2012 4:59:58 PM PDT by VMI70
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Thank you, LVR!!


83 posted on 08/03/2012 5:00:42 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL....exactly


84 posted on 08/03/2012 5:01:14 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: agooga
And...pro wrestling is real...


85 posted on 08/03/2012 5:01:32 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Jim Robinson; CatherineofAragon
It’s like the guy in the commercial when asked to point out the angus area on the beef cut chart, “I’d rather not.”

Read a joke, I think here...muzzies invented the first condom, they created it out of goat intestine.

The Brits improved upon it by removing the intestine from the goat.

LOL...don't know why, but your post made me think of that.

86 posted on 08/03/2012 5:03:50 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: agooga

When I was younger, I had a much more open mind.

But I’ve come to see that the ‘camel’s nose under the tent’ argument has merit.

Once homosexual marriage is accepted, polygamy will be 10 seconds behind that. There are already people using the gay lobbyist’s arguments for pedophilia and bestiality. (Don’t believe it will go that far? There are credible people arguing for infanticide and assisted euthanasia - without cause - right now, based on the arguments for abortion. The left will take it as far as they can push it.)

I’m sorry, but the left is NEVER satisfied. Ever. Women’s rights have been turned into women’s privileges. Abortion in specific situations has been turned into abortions for all at any stage of pregnancy. Divorce for abuse or infidelity as been turned into no-fault freebie divorce. Welfare for very poor, abused single mothers has become a massive welfare state. Don’t even get me started on the EPA and environmental movement.

There is no rational point where the radical left will be satisfied and say, “I did a good thing. My work here is done.” They will keep pushing until our entire society goes over a cliff.

I am a libertarian in the sense that I really do believe that it is an individual’s right to make poor choices and it’s not the duty of society to save them from themselves.

But I am conservative in the sense that I do believe that we do need some semblance of order in order to function as a healthy society. This is why EVERY society has a code of behavior that every individual must respect and obey.

I don’t hate gay people. I’m actually related to a gay man and he’s a great guy. My husband and I have a gay friend who’s one of the most loving, understanding people you’d ever met.

I don’t hate sinners. I have known and loved drug addicts and alcoholics and watched them make every excuse and justification for their behavior that they could come up with. I have held a sobbing woman with compassion after she fully realized the horror of her abortion. And this was after listening to her go on and ON for months about what a great ‘choice’ she made. (No, I didn’t guilt her into seeing what she had done. She did that all on her own.)

The Lord knows that I have my own faults.

So no, I don’t believe in regulating ‘sin’ or morality. The drug addict needs to find his own way into rehab. Nobody can force it.

But the primary function of marriage is to raise healthy, well-adjusted children into functioning adults. That is best done with a mother and a present father. Society honors this institution because it’s good for society.

I don’t support gay marriage for the same reason that I don’t support no-fault divorce and that I do support a 2 week waiting period before a couple says, “I do.” Marriage needs to be taken seriously as a sacred institution. We need a healthy family unit to maintain a healthy society. For the most part, it works.

I do not *think* - I do not *believe* - that gay marriage will open the door to every other perversion of the institution.

I KNOW IT WILL.

The show ‘sisterwives’ was the trial balloon for polygamy. NAMBLA is becoming more bold. Physicians at the AMA are openly discussing denial of medical care and euthanasia for our elderly.

These are things that nobody would dare openly address just a couple of decades ago. Now they have a voice that’s actually being given consideration.

We must push back.


87 posted on 08/03/2012 5:04:57 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: CatherineofAragon

Bingo! Right now it’s all PC sloganeering - like pink ribbons.

The leftwing media has mainstreamed the homosexuality movement.

Once people pull the curtains back and realize how sick and grotesque homosexuality truly is (i.e. two guys having anal sex), the more people will be turned off.


88 posted on 08/03/2012 5:05:24 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: muawiyah

Marriage simply recognizes the existence of a bonded pair, one male and one female, and is in line with “evolution”.

Help me, not sure what is meant with “evolution”

Pro-creation, Yes!


89 posted on 08/03/2012 5:05:29 PM PDT by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: agooga

I differ with you on the gay issues. I don’t hate gays, but get pretty upset they’d be so militant and in your face with their lyfestyle.

My views aren’t based on any moralism. Simply put, I view homosexuality as both disgusting and a sexual deviancy.


90 posted on 08/03/2012 5:05:58 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Thank you for saying what I couldn’t say without cussing and possibly getting banned!


91 posted on 08/03/2012 5:05:58 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. Damn it, I will!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

>> ...It’s nothing but sick perversion and mental illness. &etc

Well said.


92 posted on 08/03/2012 5:08:17 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: Marie
But I’ve come to see that the ‘camel’s nose under the tent’ argument has merit.

What we call the slippery slope, the libtards call it "progress"

93 posted on 08/03/2012 5:08:37 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: nhwingut
Use your head. We are running our weakest possible candidate (a pro-gay, pro-state government run medical care, anti-liberty poofer) at a time when we have several dozen MUCH STRONGER candidates ~ and you don't believe Romney will ruin this country?

You are hopeless.

It's time to run a Conservative ~ and any action taken other than that will result in the loss of America as we understand it to be.

Might well ask how you can be in favor of a candidate who is pro-gay marriage and at the same time be against just some poster who is also pro-gay marriage?

Are you trying to believe two contradictions simultaneously?

94 posted on 08/03/2012 5:09:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Las Vegas Ron
the libtards call it "progress"

I ask my lib sister if two guys having anal sex is human progress. She starts mumbling and stumbling over her talking points.
95 posted on 08/03/2012 5:11:16 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: 23 Everest
Whatever words float your boat ~ pair bonding is what we were given ~ and that's the way it is.

It's not just some tradition that started in the relatively recent past a few thousand years ago. It's been there since the foundations of our existence.

96 posted on 08/03/2012 5:12:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: agooga

Don’t listen to some of these responses. Homosexuality is not a tenant of conservatism. Smaller government, more individual freedom and fiscal responsibility are the pillars of conservatism. while I am against gay marriages, as it goes against both the Bible, and the sole purpose of marriage in recognizing and advertising for procreation, opposition to this view IMO does not disqualify someone from conservatism.


97 posted on 08/03/2012 5:15:00 PM PDT by BloodAngel
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To: agooga
Judging by the relative infrequency of gay marriage where it is legal, most gays have no interest in marriage. The fight over gay marriage is actually a battle not so much so that gays will marry but is a fight over the definition of marriage itself and whether the will of the people will be honored or subverted by cultural and legal elites who favor gay marriage. The bullying directed at CFA by gay advocates is but one example of such tactics.

The push for gay marriage is also part of a larger effort to demand acceptance and approval of the gay lifestyle and of sexual freedom in all respects. To the degree that this effort has been and continues to be successful, it has undermined traditional morality, marriage, and family life and the cultural and legal support for them. The result is a world in which traditional marriages and families are unnecessarily stressed.

In consequence, a great many children now suffer from not being raised by their parents, married and living together in the same household, loving and vigilant in the care and protection of their natural offspring.

Our liberated age liberated not just mild mannered "squares" so they could explore their sexuality, but it also liberated predators. Thus sexual predation against children is more and more common. Two of the covert truths of the gay community is that many of its leaders were sexually abused as children, and that among gays, sexual attraction to young, even underage males is considered normal. There is thus also a growing effort by gays to lower the age of consent so as to facilitate what is near universally considered morally wrong.

For most conservatives, these trends are alarming and must be resisted. You are not obliged to agree, but you at least ought to understand the larger context, which you seem not to.

98 posted on 08/03/2012 5:15:11 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: agooga

Gayness is imprinted, in my opinion, just as anti-gayness is imprinted.

Opinions that equate apples and oranges aren’t worth much to anyone. Opinions that further use technomedipsycological claptrap such as ‘imprinted’ as if it has an actual application in the matter under discussion are worth less.


99 posted on 08/03/2012 5:15:48 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: muawiyah
We are running our weakest possible candidate (a pro-gay, pro-state government run medical care, anti-liberty poofer) at a time when we have several dozen MUCH STRONGER candidates ~ and you don't believe Romney will ruin this country?

Not sure if you are aware but the primaries are over - as in finished. So who are these other "several dozen MUCH STRONGER candidates" we can choose from? Fill me in, champ.
100 posted on 08/03/2012 5:17:19 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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