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Discovery of early medieval royal stronghold in southwest Scotland [ the Picts ]
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| Thursday, July 26, 2012
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Posted on 07/27/2012 9:55:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: mamelukesabre
The Picts are generally believed to have been Celts, related to the Brythons of the southern island conquered by the Romans.
To: SunkenCiv
I feel like I am reading a bunch of run on sentences.
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07/28/2012 6:44:15 AM PDT
by
commonguymd
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To: SunkenCiv
"The Picts were a Celtic people, probably P-Celtic (like the Welsh and Cornish for example), and this is based on the surviving snippets of their language. " Watch your P's and Q's.
Two different DNA studies did not find any difference between the Picts and other people in the region.
Genetically, they're basically the same people...differences were culturally and probably due to some period of relative isolation.
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posted on
07/28/2012 7:18:29 AM PDT
by
blam
To: commonguymd
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07/28/2012 7:18:45 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
Just had to read it a few times. LOL. Interesting stuff.
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07/28/2012 7:22:11 AM PDT
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commonguymd
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To: SunkenCiv
I ‘ve often wondered if the Sarmatian presence in Roman times was the reason for all the black haired Scots in history.
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07/28/2012 8:45:58 AM PDT
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BenLurkin
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To: blam
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07/28/2012 10:00:13 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: BenLurkin
It may have left a trail of DNA, but unlikely, given that Scotland is a maritime country, many ports, heh heh...
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07/28/2012 10:03:37 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: blam
Q-Celtic and P-Celtic are linguistic realities which do not depend on the DNA of the speakers. The Celtic spoken in ancient Ireland (which later spread to Scotland and the Isle of Man) was Q-Celtic. The other Celtic languages were P-Celtic (of which only Welsh and Breton are still spoken--Cornish died out a couple of centuries ago).
There apparently was another Indo-European language spoken in the British Isles before the Celts arrived, or at least some of the river names seem to indicate that.
One example of the differences:
"Pinmore" (a place in Ayrshire mentioned in one of Dorothy Sayers' mysteries) is Q-Celtic and means "big hill."
Bryn Mawr has the same meaning but is P-Celtic.
To: SunkenCiv
Thanks for the links. While visiting family in Ohio last year, we visited many of the Indian mounds in so Ohio. Do you know of any further reading on this subject. I was so impressed by one mound fenced in and sitting in a quiet neighborhood adjacent to someones backyard.
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07/28/2012 10:11:50 AM PDT
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Conservative4Ever
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To: BenLurkin
"I ve often wondered if the Sarmatian presence in Roman times was the reason for all the black haired Scots in history. " Nope.
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07/28/2012 10:18:08 AM PDT
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blam
To: SunkenCiv
With the Youtube Downloader you can copy them to your HD before they are pulled. Of course it doesn’t always work, but its better than not getting them.
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07/28/2012 12:33:35 PM PDT
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GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
To: Conservative4Ever
There's loads of online articles on the Ohio mounds, including on FR. Not sure if it's on FR, but there are such mounds around these parts as well -- Indian Mounds park is right on the Grand River, and some simulated mounds (as a sort of nod-to) were built right by the public museum and the Gerald Ford museum.
Here's one idea. :')
cahokia site:freerepublic.com Google
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07/28/2012 1:15:32 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: GeronL
That’s a good idea, I may try that. I’ve got that somewhere, and could run with the laptop over to a restaurant with wi-fi.
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07/28/2012 1:19:02 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: blam; Verginius Rufus; BenLurkin
Hey, blam, those tartans didn’t get from Central Asia to the Scottish highlands by themselves. :’)
VR, I think the last native speaker of Cornish died around 1900-1905.
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07/28/2012 1:20:48 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
I haven’t used mine in a while, might need updated
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07/28/2012 1:30:33 PM PDT
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GeronL
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To: SunkenCiv
Yes, there is a new version.
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posted on
07/28/2012 1:44:03 PM PDT
by
GeronL
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanks. Will check it out.
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07/28/2012 2:31:55 PM PDT
by
Conservative4Ever
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To: Conservative4Ever
It has been my understanding that the picts were small, dark people. If from the Nordic area wouldnt they have been more like the saxons, tall and fair. Just asking. Dale Drinnon, in his Frontiers of Anthropology blog, examined this issue in some detail this spring. He presented a great amount of evidence showing that the Picts were descended from relatively short, dark people who migrated from the northern Baltic-Northern Scandinavia area, and that those people were the original (i.e., pre-Germanic) inhabitants of that area.
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07/28/2012 2:58:31 PM PDT
by
Renfield
(Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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07/28/2012 3:05:36 PM PDT
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Conservative4Ever
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