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To: Olog-hai
Otto Von Bismark was not a conservative!

At least not in the sense Americans fathom it.

European conservatives are pro-aristocratic, royalists, etc. Their politics are not ours. People, especially the commoners, serfs, peasants, etc have no rights but are rather subjects. That a royalist would wish to take care of a subject by peserving his health fits right in with European conservatism. After all, such people would BELONG to a king or count, and much as cattle are taken care of, you'd be sure to take care of your subjects. Here in the USA, conservatism is entirely different.

It is about our RIGHTS, and more specifically, our NATRUAL RIGHTS. ALL men are born with them. You don't have to be a king, a duke, or a knight to have them. We are equal in them and in and before the law.

Quote: Is medical care a Natural Right? Absolutely not. Natural Rights are yours NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE DOES OR DOES NOT DO. You can’t get medical care without someone voluntarily providing it. Since you have no right to force other people to do anything, you cannot get medical care without the consent of others. You have a Natural Right to try to get medical care, but you do not have a Natural Right to actually get it. If you did, you would also have the right to coerce medical care from others. You have no right to coerce others for anything. Again, no Natural Right requires the consent of another. Medical care requires consent of other people.

32 posted on 05/12/2012 2:59:15 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thank you for the quote you provided in #32 from this site: http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=74193.

Very well said.


53 posted on 05/12/2012 3:18:54 PM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Bismark was the great-granddaddy of the civil service bureaucracy.
94 posted on 05/12/2012 5:54:02 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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