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The Downfall of IBM
BetaNews.com ^ | April 27, 2012 | Robert X. Cringely

Posted on 04/29/2012 8:00:09 AM PDT by Daffynition

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To: Flying Circus
Your argument would have worked just as well for Enron until early 2001.
But their stock price was artificially and purposely inflated by corruption and criminal activity. Big difference.
BTW, did anyone ever figure out WTH they were selling?
101 posted on 04/29/2012 4:50:54 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

My point is you need to understand something of the company beneath the earnings statements. This article reveals what underlies the stellar earning of recent years. Earnings are great, unless they are hollowing out and destroying the value of the company underneath. I believe while IBM is displaying magnificent earnings in the near term it comes at cost to the value of the brand and trading away the best assets.


102 posted on 04/29/2012 5:24:06 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Chickensoup
We made money by being the access to IBM product with out having to deal with IBM.

Good for you!

The lies was what my husband hated the most - not just to the customers, but to the IBMers.

103 posted on 04/29/2012 5:26:34 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: justiceseeker93; Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.

IBM’s been hanging on by its fingernails for twenty years now, and this isn’t their first downsizing. They’ve managed to continue to play in the big leagues for the very small market for high-performance mainframes, but their penetration of the PC market ended sometime before they tried their PS2 OS gamble.

Around 1980 IBM had hired Microsoft (instead of Digital Research) to produce their PC-DOS, but MS held on to the rights to port it to other hardware, which led to the IBM clone market. Hardware margins (except for Apple, which controls its OS and hardware and doesn’t skimp) for PC makers is about the same as bananas.

IBM’s small box products are things like servers (some are based on the Cell, which is the CPU of the PS/3). I’m not sure about their copier business, but I can’t remember seeing an IBM copier in any office or other business that I’ve visited during the past 15 years, so that’s probably not good for IBM.

MS has gotten more nimble since the Vista fiasco (there was actually a Vista/Bill Gates joke in one of the episodes of “The Big Bang Theory”), and is introducing OS versions with much greater alacrity under its current management. Ultimately the homogeneity of MS-compatible hardware (since “IBM-compatible” is a moribund term) that will result from a single-OS market will benefit Linux and even UNIX, including Apple’s OS.


104 posted on 04/29/2012 5:44:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DManA
I don't know. IBM doesn't do shovel-ready work.

-PJ

105 posted on 04/29/2012 9:37:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Flying Circus
Earnings are great, unless they are hollowing out and destroying the value of the company underneath.
"Value" is perception. A company's responsibility is to the bottom line and the shareholders.
There's nothing wrong with IMB earning profits and streamlining itself to stay that way.
106 posted on 04/30/2012 5:36:01 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
LOL!

This is a venting thread....for all of the old IBM Haters...

107 posted on 04/30/2012 8:33:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: Daffynition

Hmmm - if this is what IBM wants, maybe it would be good for all US based businesses to stop doing business with IBM - maybe they should change their name to non-US-BM


108 posted on 04/30/2012 4:16:39 PM PDT by utford
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