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1st Pennsylvania Regiment filled with good shots
Reading Eagle (PA) ^ | 12-30-11 | Bruce Posten

Posted on 12/30/2011 8:21:05 PM PST by Pharmboy

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To: ZULU
...and the same to you! Here's a marker from Lancaster, PA, that you may have seen:


41 posted on 12/31/2011 3:44:33 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt! 2012)
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Thanks Phamboy. Actually, I don’t remember seeing it, but I was at that Henry Rifle place near the Delaware. They give lessons on building these rifles there.

http://www.jacobsburg.org/jacobsburg_calendar.html


42 posted on 12/31/2011 4:04:38 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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Thanks for the information. Much of the information in the book were family stories...some documented others not.

One tells that the young wife was left with a two week old baby and crops ready for harvest in the field. She managed.
Another tells a story that took place after the War They were given land for their service: First inhabitants of Stark County Ohio. The story relates one of the women going to get water at a spring, challenged by a black bear and an eclipse of the sun saving her.

It's very enjoyable reading, But I like more information/documentation on specific items mentioned....Like the Bradford Accord....Know it was a complaint sent to the Gov of PA.

43 posted on 12/31/2011 4:22:13 PM PST by hoosiermama (We need more Jobs.....Steve Jobs....entrepreneurs and creators.)
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To: KoRn

From about 38 to 44 maybe a few a bit longer.

As to recoil- a good Pennsylvania type long rifle was found in 50-58 cal weighed about 7-9 lbs and fired (in 50 cal ) a round ball of pure lead weighing about 180 grains, charged with from 70-100 grains of medium grade black powder, so about as powerful as a 30/30, but with a trajectory much taller- 300 yards is a long ways off with a round ball gun. 54 ball weigh 230 grns.

I can get great accuracy and good velocity with a .495 ball , lard greased pillow ticking patch and 90 grains of 2Fg GOEX black powder- chronograph say 1680 fs.

Kills deer very well with 75 yards, I would not risk a shot past 125 though-but a friend routinely kills deer with a similar flinter ( I built it) out to 175 from a blind with a rest.

Anecdotally, Kentucky Rifles were indeed made in the east-usually PA, VA, MD, and were named such for the long hunters that were trekking into KAINTUCK, past the PA/VA frontier (Ohio was not a state, but rather the greater Ohio territory.

In this pre-revolutionary period, these rifles were not small caliber “squirrel rifles”. This title is reserved for late flint/early percussion period ( early to mid 1800’s, when much big game like deer, black bears, elk and bison were gone from the NE. Then, smaller calibers were adequate for small game- 30, 32, 40 and 45.


44 posted on 12/31/2011 5:19:05 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: KoRn

From about 38” to 44” maybe a few a bit longer.

As to recoil- a good Pennsylvania type long rifle was found in 50-58 cal weighed about 7-9 lbs and fired (in 50 cal ) a round ball of pure lead weighing about 180 grains, charged with from 70-100 grains of medium grade black powder, so about as powerful as a 30/30, but with a trajectory much taller- 300 yards is a long ways off with a round ball gun. 54 ball weigh 230 grns. Recoil, even in lager calibers, is very mild compared to say a light weight 30/06 etc.

I can get great accuracy and good velocity with a .495 ball , lard greased pillow ticking patch and 90 grains of 2Fg GOEX black powder- chronograph say 1680 fs.

Kills deer very well with 75 yards, I would not risk a shot past 125 though-but a friend routinely kills deer with a similar flinter ( I built it) out to 175 from a blind with a rest.

Anecdotally, Kentucky Rifles were indeed made in the east-usually PA, VA, MD, and were named such for the long hunters that were trekking into KAINTUCK, past the PA/VA frontier (Ohio was not a state, but rather the greater Ohio territory.

In this pre-revolutionary period, these rifles were not small caliber “squirrel rifles”. This title is reserved for late flint/early percussion period ( early to mid 1800’s, when much big game like deer, black bears, elk and bison were gone from the NE. Then, smaller calibers were adequate for small game- 30, 32, 40 and 45.


45 posted on 12/31/2011 5:20:32 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: hoosiermama

The National Muzzle-Loading Rifle Association has its headquarters and range in Friendship, Indiana, if your interested in seeing these guns in action.

Great organization.

See:

http://www.nmlra.org/visit.asp

Also:

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=9e6a6hk5jp7rjpper59atm99o3&;


46 posted on 12/31/2011 7:09:42 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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Rifles in the Revolutionary War?

I did not know that.

The General he killed got a university: http://www.sfu.ca/

“Where’d you get your degree?

“SFU!

“A bit sensitive aren’t ya.”

Anyways, Happy New Year.


47 posted on 01/01/2012 8:05:49 AM PST by aculeus
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...and I did not know that he managed to get a university named after him...thanks for that!

He was quite a brave officer...

48 posted on 01/01/2012 8:36:35 AM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt! 2012)
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Bayer has a company owned hotel/conference center in Moon Township, near Pittsburgh. In the bar, there is a collection of one dozen PA long rifles with an extensive history of each piece (where available) and each gunsmith. Bartender said the collection is worth several hundred thousand dollars.


49 posted on 01/01/2012 7:10:05 PM PST by j_tull ("A little of what you fancy does you good, or so it should.")
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From what I know, the barkeep’s right. If I’m out to Pittsburgh, I will look for that place. Thanks.


50 posted on 01/01/2012 7:24:04 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt! 2012)
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