FRINGE - Official Season 4 Thread

[Lucky9teen]

LOL...I’m such a dork. I went to ping you and forgot to paste your name in the TO: field...and ended up pinging myself. Errr... ;-P

[DollyCali]

watched for first time tonight.

please add me to ping list?

[Mycroft Holmes]

Thanks, I've inflicted Fringe on my father and found this thread very helpful in bringing him up to speed. I am still trying to figure out how I missed till right this very moment that The Observers were named after the months.

As a general rule I loath time travel stories, too much deus ex machina for my taste; but Fringe still has me hooked. The only other thing currently on that comes close is Haven. Thanks for doing the list.

[cpforlife.org]

WARNING: Possible Spoiler alert. For those who are not “current” with the show.

“They don't remember him.” “How could they, he never existed.”

That was a big problem for me too, LibertarianLiz. Then in the first scene of the first episode of this season, two observers (October and December) meet in a diner. Here’s the transcript from: http://www.fringepedia.net

THE OBSERVER: (somberly) I received your message.

DECEMBER: Then you know we have a problem.

THE OBSERVER: (emphatic) It is impossible. The timeline has been rewritten. He was erased. And yet traces of him continue to bleed through.

DECEMBER: It is, as it has always been, our responsibility to insure events play out, as they were intended, before your intervention. This started with you. It must be you who ends it. (hands over a small metallic bar)

DECEMBER: They can never know the boy lived to be a man.

THE OBSERVER: I will take care of it.

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Then at the end of the first episode we see the observer decide against using the machine he built. Which I guess would have more permanently corrected Peter's “bleed through” into this universe.

That tells me the writers made a little “boo-boo” on the close of last season. October (The Observer) should not have said “he never existed” but more like - he never existed past childhood. Walter confirms this in the 3rd episode - last night.

http://www.fringepedia.net is awesome BTW. Helps me with this amazing program.

At least this is how I understand it in the universe I'm in currently.

[LibertarianLiz]

I agree with you that the writers made a mistake. But, even if they meant that he didn't survive past childhood (which is not what they said, they said he never existed), then how is there a Henry and with no Henry then there is no DNA to help Walternate start up his side's machine.

As I said with my previous posts, you can just keep going on and on about how this negates WAY too much of the past storyline.

However, it also makes abudantly clear that Peter is the lynch pin of the entire tale.

[Lucky9teen]

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SEASON 4: EPISODE 4 – AIRS: 10/14/2011
EPISODE TITLE: SUBJECT 9

EPISODE SYNOPSIS:Walter is forced to leave the lab for the first time in years when he and Olivia go to Massive Dynamic to examine files that may connect one of Walter's Cortexiphan test subjects to a new series of crimes

[Lucky9teen]

PING

[rabidralph]

Peter never existed as an adult. Last week, Walter said that he stole the alternate Peter but when they re-entered the real world, they fell through the ice and Peter drowned. So, in the current reality, Peter has died in childhood, rather than being rescued by the man in the big black hat.

[Zuben Elgenubi]

[Lucky9teen]

For those who come to the thread for tonights episode...Fringe is not new tonight, so....

Catch an encore of the Season 4 Premiere episode, “Neither Here Nor There”, TONIGHT at 9/8c! - http://bit.ly/mVLIx7

It’ll be back next week with a new episode though, so I’ll ping ya’ll then. ;)

[Lucky9teen]

Dang, I was getting all excited...but no, Fringe is not back until next week (11/4)...pooh.

[LibertarianLiz]

I had been rooting for the Rangers because they are in the same division as my home team (Seattle Mariners), and Adrian Beltre used to play for the Mariners and I wished him well when he left. Loved watching him play.

But, when I realized that if the Rangers didn't win on Thursday, that I wouldn't get a new Fringe on Friday, I was even more intent on my rooting for the Rangers to win.

[KarlInOhio]

Dang, I was getting all excited...but no, Fringe is not back until next week (11/4)...pooh.

On the other side the Rangers won when Pujols popped-up in the bottom of the tenth.

[zzeeman]

I am very happy that our cable TV service just got restored an hour ago — I waited 3 weeks since the last Fringe and would have been PO’ed to miss tonight’s episode!

[Gaffer]

I followed “Lost” for a couple of years until I figured out that the writers were a bunch of cranked-up dopers that just wrote whatever came to their doped-out minds until they had to figure out how to “connect” all of it. The last episode is the result....it’s called waking up in rehab without your stash...

[Lucky9teen]

You said Pujoles...LOL

[Lucky9teen]

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SEASON 4: EPISODE 5 – AIRS: 11/4/2011
EPISODE TITLE: NOVATION

EPISODE SYNOPSIS: The translucent shapeshifters return to plague Fringe division, and a former Massive Dynamic scientist is involved. Meanwhile, Walter meets with Nina Sharp.

[LibertarianLiz]

The first thing hubby said to me as he left for work this morning: “Yeah, Fringe tonight!”

[rabidralph]

I was really digging Nina’s silver lame’ camo jacket.

[Lucky9teen]

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SEASON 4: EPISODE 6 – AIRS: 11/11/2011
EPISODE TITLE: AND THOSE WE'VE LEFT BEHIND

EPISODE SYNOPSIS:An electrical engineer and his wife, a professor of theoretical physics, are involved in a series of fatal time loop anomalies.