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Posted on 03/29/2011 4:00:12 PM PDT by FourtySeven

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To: FourtySeven

Wells Fargo has the worst security. My sister has, on three occasions, had her account hacked and monies were pulled out to pay cell phone bills in Malaysia. She doesn’t have a card, an online account, hell, she doesn’t even own a computer.

She has always been able to recoup her money, only after constant calls and threats from her brutish brother.

Wells Fargo IS the problem.

I have two accounts and I manage two accounts for my mother at US Bank. All four accounts have an online presence and we both have cards. Never a hint of security issues.

A couple of years ago, I was in the bank doing some stuff for my mom and I casually mentioned that I was going to be out of the country for a few weeks and wondered if my cash card would work at the ATM’s in the UK. The lady I was dealing with said that it would work. Once. Becaause this was out of my normal pattern of withdrawls, suddenly having it taking funds from an ATM in N. Ireland would run up a red flag and the acoount would be frozen. Good to know.


41 posted on 03/29/2011 4:47:37 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Sharia? No, thanks.)
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To: FourtySeven

Go to your branch and speak with a personal banker.

It sounds like they did a good job watching your back in this situation .


42 posted on 03/29/2011 4:48:35 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Interesting thanks. Yes, I have other accounts I use, without any problem.


43 posted on 03/29/2011 4:49:06 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

I don’t believe that was really Wells Fargo calling you. Sounds like a scam.


44 posted on 03/29/2011 4:51:07 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: FourtySeven

I think your first problem is Wells Fargo, and I would start by changing banks as quickly as I could. I’ve seen some of the way they do business and I won’t have anything to do with them at all.

Is there a local Credit Union you can join?? They are usually quite responsible and responsive to their customers and in my experience are a lot easier to deal with than any of the large banks.

Just a thought, and good luck!


45 posted on 03/29/2011 4:51:56 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Of course I’m happy they are being safe, not sorry. I’m not angry about that. I’ve gotten similar calls before. This is just the first time I was practically FORCED to run a program I didn’t want to run! And now, I’d even have to prove I DID run it if there were to be an unauthorized charge on the account. (?!?)

Crazy. I’ve never heard of a company demanding as a prerequisite for restoration of online access the operation of an anti-virus program. Never.

It seems like either the dumbest customer service model I’ve ever seen OR a RAT way of WEASELING out of any charges I say are not authorized. I’m starting to think the latter.


46 posted on 03/29/2011 4:52:10 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

Copy and paste your posting to Snopes and see if they can match this to a current scam:

http://www.snopes.com/cgi-bin/comments/webmail.asp


47 posted on 03/29/2011 4:52:42 PM PDT by radioone (Proud to be an enemy of Obama)
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To: Bean Counter

Thanks and yes, I will no longer do business with them after I get the reward points off the card.

Sheesh. I’m glad I paid my mortgage with them off.


48 posted on 03/29/2011 4:53:20 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Domalais
Chances are, you used the same username and password combination at another site, which was either unsecured or compromised.

The fix for this is to use a different password on every site, and let a password manager like lastpass handle them for you.


This is excellent advice, I highly recommend this approach. I started doing this several years ago. I also keep a 'backup' password list in MS Excel, which I have password protected/encrypted and store offline on a small flash drive.

I wish more websites would use '*****' on the user/login id field like they do for the password. Never understood why the userid was displayed in plain text on the screen. Anyone watching you is halfway to your account.
49 posted on 03/29/2011 4:54:15 PM PDT by CygnusTheSwan ("Me fail English? That's unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum)
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To: FourtySeven

You can’t completely prevent it all; however:

1. Use a program like Secunia’s PSI to scan your computer against the latest security fixes for all of your software. Sadly, Sun’s Java updater only checks once a month and many other programs’ updater programs only check upon boot up, meaning constantly Suspending or Hibernating your system, rather than doing a total shutdown, may leave you never updating.

2. Use a browser like Firefox that has add-ins that block scripts and Flash objects from auto-running unless you whitelist the sites you think are safe.

3. Set up your DNS to use OpenDNS with a free account, configuring your options to disallow resolving websites reported to have malware. Also consider using browser add-ins the do likewise, or use Google’s prescreening to vet your sites before going there (I limit use of Google for personal reasons, but this is a good use of Google).

4. Maintain and buy a good malware/anti-virus program for your Apple.

I hope this helps.


50 posted on 03/29/2011 4:55:44 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: FourtySeven
“Crazy. I’ve never heard of a company demanding as a prerequisite for restoration of online access the operation of an anti-virus program. Never.”

I'm just guessing here, but think about it this way. If they didn't insist that people do this what would happen?
Many people are clueless about security and probably shouldn't be doing online banking.

If they insist you do this after a compromise; it might weed out people who don't know how to keep their computers secure.

Banks take this stuff very seriously. They have no control over how secure customers keep their computers and what websites they visit to pick up garbage.
I think it be a very tough area to work in a bank.

51 posted on 03/29/2011 4:57:40 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: dynachrome

I get those all the time on one of my business phones. Problem is it is a disposable with no name or information associated to it.


52 posted on 03/29/2011 4:58:33 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: FourtySeven

Are you sure it wasn’t with a local Wi-Fi connection?


53 posted on 03/29/2011 4:59:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
"Because this was out of my normal pattern of withdrawls, suddenly having it taking funds from an ATM in N. Ireland would run up a red flag and the acoount would be frozen. Good to know."

I don't travel overseas very often, but my son does. I learned from him that if you plan to take any of your credit cards overseas with you, it is important to call the bank(s) prior to your trip, tell them the dates you will be there, and the countries you will be going to. It also doesn't hurt to call again a day or two before departure to ensure that the info was put into your record correctly. I did as he advised, and had no problems using my credit cards or debit card during the 33 days I traveled in Europe.

54 posted on 03/29/2011 5:00:27 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I have found that Wells Fargo is clueless about security.


55 posted on 03/29/2011 5:01:32 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Sharia? No, thanks.)
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To: mass55th

Protection against fraud is pretty standard stuff at banks. Most banks will have a limit of $50 or something. My banks will reimburse for 100% of any claim. Check the disclaimers or call their office.


56 posted on 03/29/2011 5:02:56 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: mass55th

Protection against fraud is pretty standard stuff at banks. Most banks will have a limit of $50 or something. My banks will reimburse for 100% of any claim. Check the disclaimers or call their office.


57 posted on 03/29/2011 5:02:59 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: mass55th

Yep. That’s exactly what I did while I was sitting there in the bank. Trip went off without a hitch.


58 posted on 03/29/2011 5:03:18 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Sharia? No, thanks.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Yes. I have the “Ask me about joining networks” turned off on my iPhone. There is no possible way it automatically joined some other Wi-Fi network; it must have been on AT&T’s 3G.


59 posted on 03/29/2011 5:04:34 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

Number 1 question how quite is your computer on the internet? Dont have any idea what that means it is something you need to know. Firewall do you run one will it allow your computer to echo pings (ICMP Echo) requests, will it accept unsolicited packets, TCP packets, what ports are open, what types of identifying information will it allow out of your computer.
These days you need a stealthed system a good firewall will do that for you.


60 posted on 03/29/2011 5:06:37 PM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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