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To: Las Vegas Ron; rxsid; null and void

This is the new COLB form that replaced the old form. It’s called a Certificate of Live Birth - the Certification of Live Birth is gone, “bye-bye.”

The excuse that the DOH gives for making this change is about as lame as one can get:

“We wanted to give people something that felt more like an official birth certificate,” says Janice Okubo.

Hawaii has been furiously changing the rules to fit Obama.

First, they told people that they can’t get a copy of the original paper birth certificate.

Then, I showed them the DHHS website which only accepts copies of the original paper birth certificate and not the COLB transcript, and shows what one needs to do to order one.

Next, the DHHS changes its rules to accept the COLB - with a little nudge from the DOH no doubt.

When asked about the differences between the long-form birth certificate and the short-form birth certificate, Janice Okubo says “They’re just words!”

Right! Lots of important words on the long-form NOT found on the short-form. Not to mention the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, the Delayed Certificate of Birth, and the Late Certificate of Live Birth - all distinctly different.

Now, they said, “Fuggedebout the COLB,” and come out with a bastardized short-long form, or is it a long-short form?

Never has this degree of CYA been done on a statewide level.


113 posted on 06/25/2010 11:37:25 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Polarik; Admin Moderator; twister881; Menehune56
WTH is going on here? This document has changed since I first clicked on this thread.

  1. In comment #12 twister881 says this:
    The document says “Hawaii” under island of birth...if the Commie-Muzzie Kenyan Usuper was born in Honolulu, would not the island be “Oahu?”
    When I clicked on the link to the jpg, it had changed to Oahu.
  2. In post #23 Menehune56 posts this:
    Absolutely. And the county is shown as "Hawaii" and that should be "Honolulu" since that's the name of the county Oahu is in. This whole thing stinks.
    When I first opened the jpg, it did say Hawaii under County of Birth. After your post #73 where you said "FIXED", I refreshed the image, it now shows Honolulu as the County of Birth.

What kind of a hoax are you trying to perpetrate here?

127 posted on 06/25/2010 12:00:52 PM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: Polarik
Now, they said, “Fuggedebout the COLB,” and come out with a bastardized short-long form, or is it a long-short form?

You might remember this thread from July 28, 2009 (you are cited): Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report.

At the bottom of the report, we get to this section:

July 11th Addendum to Report

1. Until June 2009, the reasonable doubts about where Obama was born could have quickly and finally been resolved if he had authorized the release by the Hawaiian Dept of Health of his original birth certificate or else applied for it himself and released it to the media. But as these doubts have increased and reached the point where they are no longer a “fringe” phenomenon, the Hawaiian state govt has recently taken certain steps that would create procedural and possibly legal barriers to a resolution of the controversy. Given the slipperiness that characterized the statements of Chiyome Fukino, the Dept’s Director, and Janice Okubo, the Dept’s spokesperson, to the media on this issue, it is, I think, also reasonable to regard these steps with suspicion.

A family that I am acquainted with has a child who was born in Hawaii 6 months ago. They filled out and mailed in a form to the Dept of Health, as did their doctor. In return the Dept sent them in the first week of June, 2009, the same abbreviated computer-generated form that last year on the Daily Kos and subsequently on the Obama campaign web site was called a “Certification of Live Birth”. The form that this family received this year is identical in format to the Certification of Live Birth on the Daily Kos web site with one exception: the title at the top of the form.

On June 12, 2008 the title for this abbreviated form was Certification of Live Birth. The title for the form that this family received in the first week of June 2009 is Certificate of Live Birth. I called The Dept of Health and confirmed that the title of the form had been changed. The bureaucrat that I spoke to said the change had been made “recently”, but could not or would not tell me when. Sometime between June 12, 2008 and the first week of June 2009 the Hawaiian Dept of Health changed the title of this abbreviated form from “Certification of Live Birth” to “Certificate of Live Birth“. Why?

The use of the word “Certificate” rather than “Certification” makes the form feel somewhat more like a traditional birth certificate than the “Certification of Live Birth” that the Daily Kos website and subsequently the Obama campaign posted on the Internet even though, like the “Certification“, it also lacks any information about the hospital, doctor, or midwife. There is no footprint etc. This renaming of the document will be very convenient for the Hawaiian Dept of Health in future stonewalling should any legal pressure be brought against them to produce Obama’s “Certificate of Live Birth”. Instead of producing the original “Certificate of Live Birth”, they will produce the abbreviated “Certification of Live Birth” form that the Dept of Health has now renamed a “Certificate of Live Birth” and claim that they are doing so “in accordance with state policies and procedures” in the words of the Dept’s Director, Dr. Chiyome Fukino.

But whether it is called (as it was last year) a Certification or (as it is now) a Certificate of Live Birth this abbreviated document provides none of the probative information that was or wasn’t on Barack Obama’s original Certificate of Live Birth. Unlike the Certificate of Live Birth of the time when Barack Obama was born, this new Certificate of Live Birth provides no real evidence of where a child was born or indication of where such evidence might be found. It provides no information that would demonstrate to the people of the United States whether there is convincing evidence that he was actually born here or whether a relative or two (or possibly even Barack Obama himself) just made a statement to that effect to a low level bureaucrat. (As is permitted under Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii.)

-PJ
129 posted on 06/25/2010 12:01:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Polarik
This is the new COLB form that replaced the old form.

So this is an official Hawaii release? When did it come out?

Wouldn't the bamster have to authorize the release of it?

Sorry for being slow but I'm still a bit confused.

137 posted on 06/25/2010 12:08:58 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Polarik

The really maddening thing is that none of this is legal either, since Administrative Rules have an elaborate procedure they are supposed to go through to get changed, and nothing has been done to legally change the existing Administrative Rules - which refer to TWO certificates: the standard birth certificate (which must contain all the info on the CDC standard BC and is to be available in its entirey when requested by the registrant) and the abbreviated birth certificate (which, when non-certified, is to be available for anyone to see).

All this other stuff that ignores their Admin Rules is illegal.

Basically what we’ve got is lawlessness. Sheer and simple. And even though the whole world can see it, there’s not one of us that can MAKE the laws stick.

It’s exactly what we’re seeing in Arizona as ICE says they won’t take referrals from Arizona. It’s exactly what we saw during the healthcare reform crap, when the Senate rules were ignored at will and the repubs couldn’t do a thing about it. It’s exactly what Chrysler saw when their secured investors had their money stolen and given to the unions which elected Obama instead - in full view of everyone but, again, nobody could do anything about it. It’s exactly what we’ve seen when BP was forced to hand over their penance money for Obama to decide who gets it (any bets as to whether the unions get most of it?)

People have absolutely GOT to wake up to the seriousness of what we are facing. This isn’t a - tee-hee - “conspiracy theory”. This is a full-blown coup, and if we give up any more infrastructure to the enemy there will be nothing left for us to fight with in the fight against the communist-Islamist unholy alliance that is out to destroy this nation. Obama told the Egyptian ambassador that he is a Muslim who supports the Muslim agenda. The only Muslim agenda I know of is the institution of worldwide Sharia and the destruction of Israel and the United States.

Obama sure as Hell has done everything in his power to see the destruction of the United States. Do we have to wait until the US corpse is cold before we can charge Obama and his ilk with treason? By then there will be no process by which to charge him with treason.


418 posted on 06/26/2010 7:16:58 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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