[Paladins Prayer]

This is a great piece that explains the truth about the Crusades and why we should view the Crusaders as heroes.

[230FMJ]

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[Woebama]

And when we became dominant militarily again we were “modern” and no longer cared about recovering lost lands for Christendom.

[FatherofFive]

We face the same enemy today.

The Koran:

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non-believers...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Sura (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Sura (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Sura (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Sura (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Sura (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Sura (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Sura (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Sura (47:4) - "So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make them prisoners,"

Sura (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"

Sura (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end

From the Hadith:

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’”

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."

Ibn Ishaq: 327 - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."

The Koran and hadiths are replete with examples of Muhammad's barbaric behavior. Robert Spencer does a good job here explaining Islam - Blogging the Qur’an Start at the bottom.

[Logic n' Reason]

The article gives very short shrift to the thousands of Jews slaughterd by these crusaders....

But then, the winners write the history; the losers live it.

[roamer_1]

Perhaps one should research the European Crusades and Inquisitions before painting such an heroic picture.

And yes, European Jews were slaughtered, along with Christians who would not bend a knee to Rome, and would not submit to Rome’s creed... For 1200+ years...

[Sherman Logan]

his civilization has enjoyed rapidity and scope of conquest heretofore unseen in world history.

Nonsense. The Huns, Alexander and others conquered much more rapidly.

The big difference is in the generally permanent nature of Muslim conquest. The Huns came and went. Muslims changed the societies they conqured.

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[Woebama]

From the article: As for conversion, the Crusaders were warriors, not missionaries. They had no interest in converting Muslims; in fact, I doubt the notion ever entered their minds. They viewed the Muslims as enemies of God and His Church and a threat to Christendom, nothing more, nothing less. Treating this matter in a piece entitled “The Crusades: separating myth from reality,” Zenit cited medieval history expert Dr. Franco Cardini and wrote:

“The Crusades,” says Cardini, “were never ‘religious wars,’ their purpose was not to force conversions or suppress the infidel.” … To describe the Crusade as a “Holy War” against the Moslems is misleading, says Cardini: “The real interest in these expeditions, in service of Christian brethren threatened by Moslems, was the restoration of peace in the East, and the early stirring of the idea of rescue for distant fellow-Christians.”
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I know that Francis of Assisi went and actually had an audience with a Sultan during the Crusades to try to convert him. Francis was respected and allowed to leave in peace. Francis was probably the exception in this case, but worth mentioning. I doubt he was the only one who tried to proselytize.

[SMCC1]

marked. thanks.

[rae4palin]

Great article. Thanks for the post. One historian referred to the 4th Crusade’s sacking of Constantinople as “the greatest crime in history.”

[PGalt]

Very good article by Selwyn Duke. Thanks for posting.

[Desdemona]

Bookmark for later. Fascinating article and answers so many questions.

[Woebama]

Good article, thank you.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

“...the truth about the Crusades and why we should view the Crusaders as heroes.”

Crusades II are having birthing pains right now in Tennessee, this one will retake America as the original Crusades took back the souls and property of Christianity plundered by muslim jihad long ago

[Cacique]

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[bobjam]

The First Crusade was a great military feat- an army commanded by three different nationalities (Franks, Greeks and Norse)marched 1500 miles, engaged a numerically and technologically superior enemy on their home turf and beat them.

[HighlyOpinionated]

Syria and Iraq fell in 636; Palestine in 638; and Egypt, which was not even an Arab land, fell in 642. North Africa, also not Arab, was under Muslim control by 709. Then came the year 711 and the Moors’ invasion of Europe, as they crossed the Strait of Gibraltar and entered Visigothic Iberia (now Spain and Portugal). And the new continent brought new successes to Islam. Conquering the Iberian Peninsula by 718, the Muslims crossed the Pyrenees Mountains into Gaul (now France) and worked their way northward. And now, in 732, they are approaching Tours, a mere 126 miles from Paris.

We the People must advertise this history far and wide. Every blog you have access to, every Facebook site, MySpace site, NING site, even to the point of writing letters to the editors of Newspapers and Magazines.

WHY? To show Izlam for what it is! Izlam is not the "original" religion of the Middle East. And I am sure that there ARE people living in the so-called Muzlem countries who still recall the "old ways" of their grandfathers. It only takes a spark of truth to get a fire of revolution burning.


Recall the Battle of Lepanto in 1571.

Battle of Lepanto

On October 7, 1571, a great victory over the mighty Turkish fleet was won by Catholic naval forces primarily from Spain, Venice, and Genoa under the command of Don Juan of Austria. It was the last battle at sea between "oared" ships, which featured the most powerful navy in the world, a Moslem force with between 12,000 to 15,000 Christian slaves as rowers. The patchwork team of Catholic ships was powered by the Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Knowing that the Christian forces were at a distinct material disadvantage, the holy pontiff, St. Pope Pius V called for all of Europe to pray the Rosary for victory. We know today that the victory was decisive, prevented the Islamic invasion of Europe, and evidenced the Hand of God working through Our Lady. At the hour of victory, St. Pope Pius V, who was hundreds of miles away at the Vatican, is said to have gotten up from a meeting, went over to a window, and exclaimed with supernatural radiance: "The Christian fleet is victorious!" and shed tears of thanksgiving to God.

What you may not know is that one of three admirals commanding the Catholic forces at Lepanto was Andrea Doria. He carried a small copy of Mexico's Our Lady of Guadalupe into battle. This image is now enshrined in the Church of San Stefano in Aveto, Italy. Not many know that at the Monastery of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Spain, one can view a huge warship lantern that was captured from the Moslems in the Battle of Lepanto. In Rome, look up to the ceiling of S. Maria in Aracoeli and behold decorations in gold taken from the Turkish galleys. In the Doges' Palace in Venice, Italy, one can witness a giant Islamic flag that is now a trophy from a vanquished Turkish ship from the Victory. At Saint Mary Major Basilica in Rome, close to the tomb of the great St. Pope Pius V, one was once able to view yet another Islamic flag from the Battle, until 1965, when it was returned to Istanbul in an intended friendly token of concord. OUR LADY AND ISLAM: HEAVEN’S PEACE PLAN

Remember Lepanto!


One of the Admirals on the winning side was none other than Andrea Doria!

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[texmexis best]

The article is a great read and it hits the nail on the head on the subject at hand. It was a defensive war to preserve the Eastern Roman Empire and did so for an additional 400 years (1453).

Several points to consider.

Massacres of the defenders of cities were pretty much the rule rather than the exception in Mediaval Europe as well as the Levant. The intent was to “incentivize” the surrender of the city in a peaceful manner and it was nearly always successful.

The massacre in Jerusalem has probably been overstated in numbers and the Jewish population recovered quickly after the Kingdom of Jerusalem was set up. Muslims defenders were also massacred.

The successes of the Muslim armies were probably due mostly to superior numbers, superior heavy cavalry and superior artillery. In later years, the Muslims stopped developing their artillery and Europe caught up and then passed them.

I wish we had been taught more about the Eastern Roman Empire in our schools as it outlasted the Western Empire by 1,000 years and was successful in many ways that the Western Empire was not. It is fascinating to read about it. They were blessed with many good Emperors and their stabilty and economic development showed it.