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Former astronaut: Man not alone in universe
cnn ^ | April 20 2009

Posted on 04/20/2009 3:40:19 PM PDT by JoeProBono

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To: JoJo Gunn

Maybe you could stop by the fire station next time and invite them to do some hose aiming training on you???


81 posted on 04/21/2009 11:55:51 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

We are alone, get over it!


82 posted on 04/21/2009 11:58:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: dfwgator

YOU ARE THOROUGHLY WRONG.

Deal with it.


83 posted on 04/21/2009 12:01:40 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Paradox

Actually, IIRC,

6-10 astronauts have come out on the side of UFO & ET realities in the last year . . . some for the first time.

Some have decried earlier recants of such disclosures.

Mitchell is one of quite a group, now.


84 posted on 04/21/2009 12:02:56 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Prove it!!! Sure it makes for interesting science fiction, but there is absolutely no evidence that there is any form of life outside of our planet.

And while I'm at it, Oswald acted alone!

85 posted on 04/21/2009 12:03:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; All; DCPatriot

Very interesting . . . FWIW:

D.C., PLEASE ping whatever level you see fit to ping.

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page6676674.php

Breaking News: Barack Obama prepares for UFO arrival, open alien contact

Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com

All News Web recently received a series of brief emails from some-one who claimed to have worked in the Pentagon within the DARPA agency on a project that involved collaborating closely with both NASA’s Ames Research Center and SETI. The person who has identified herself as ‘Tina’ has provided us with a number of scanned documents that back the veracity of her claims to some extent (these documents confirm a professional relationship to the Department of Defense, they do not relate to any information regarding the aliens).

The correspondent claims to have SAP clearance and has had some access to ‘Black Project’ information. She claims that a multitude of departments house small nucleuses of employees working on the same or related projects and information is very compartmentalised, provided on a ‘need to know’ basis at her level of clearance.

‘Tina’ has a university degree in marketing and came to work on the project which she declines to name via an initial position in the Pentagon’s public relations operations. Her position involved relaying and rewriting electronic messages for distribution to certain world organizations regarding imminent open contact with an alien race. We are unsure as to why she has contacted All News Web.

According to ‘Tina’ the last and only physical meeting between aliens and the Government and indeed the only actual official Government recorded UFO landing and alien visitation in the last century up until now occurred in the early 1950’s. This was a meeting between three alien explorers and President Truman. The meeting involved some form of limited telepathic communication and involved the Aliens expressing relief that WW2 had come to an end. The aliens promised to return one day. The Aliens were about three foot and of somewhat classic ‘Grey’ appearance. Photographs were taken and these, which have been seen by a handful of media figures (Stanley Kubrick, Steven Spielberg), have become a basis for the traditional image of ‘Grey’ aliens.

The Aliens are believed to come from a planet about thirty light years away and it is unknown if they possess faster than light transport. ‘Tina’ did not receive any information on Roswell or any reverse engineering projects involving ET technology. She does not discount other informal alien or UFO incidents.

The aliens seek to establish ties with Earthlings. They are able to monitor the goings on here remotely and it appears they are at least a thousand years ahead of humans technologically According to ‘Tina’ SETI is receiving and concealing regular explicit signals (and has been doing so for at least seven years) from this race that state that they are returning to earth in around four years (2013) and have spacecraft essentially mid-journey. The extra-terrestrials will land openly and in a way that will conclusively prove their presence and are doing so unilaterally. They have given the US government until then to prepare humanity for this event.

‘Tina’ alleges that some powerful security figures would like to thwart this open contact but are powerless to do so. Many figures associated with NASA and even the Pentagon are positive about the event and a conspiracy to hide the truth form the world’s population is not unanimous.

What all parties agree on is that the best course of action is to leave any announcement of the event to the absolute latest possible time so as not to frighten people or harm the economy.

Major churches have been briefed on the matter and are being given time to shift their positions so as to accommodate this new reality. The US Govt has been ‘requested’ to mend and clean up rivalries and conflicts in preparation and this extra-ordinary event and this is the primary reason for Barack Obama’s peace gesture to Iran and indeed his very presidency. Barack Obama is in almost daily contact with SETI and is communicating with the aliens directly.

The aliens indirectly contributed to the development of internet search engines and they are in limited contact with Google through SETI. They are able to access the internet currently and their involvement in search engine research is for the purpose of allowing them to understand as much about earth as possible prior to their next arrival.

It is believed that search engine algorithms are somewhat based on the form of telepathic communication they use.

We at All News Web do not know what to make of these emails but feel obliged to publish their content. Do they represent the truth or will they end up on the slush pile of UFO theories along with so many others? Only time will tell. If any readers have any knowledge corroborating these claims please contact us.


86 posted on 04/21/2009 12:07:21 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Hey Quix! Of the folks who believe in the ufo stuff, can you give a guesstimate breakdown of the % who believe that it’s advanced normal beings, those that believe it’s supernatural but good, those that believe it’s supernatural but bad, and those that think it’s evolved/altered humans time traveling to our present?

Freegards


87 posted on 04/21/2009 12:07:45 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: JoeProBono

Note to Mitchell... “I’ve got some bad news for you, sunshine.”


88 posted on 04/21/2009 12:09:29 PM PDT by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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To: dfwgator

I have no great compulsions to “prove” anything to

those who

chronically, addictively, compulsively

DEMONSTRATE

1. a fierce addiction to laying themselves repeatedly open to virtually certain persistent TYPE II ERRORS

2. willful blindness to the max

3. microscopic amounts of fair-mindedness—if that much

4. complexions full of grains of sand from leaving their heads in the sand so habitually

5. chronic cluelessness about proper application of Occam’s razor

6. 99.999999999999999999999999% ignorance about the best evidence in the field

7. rigid, brittle, narrow, blind biased belief systems terminally resistent to being the least bit influenced by facts and truth.


89 posted on 04/21/2009 12:11:16 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

Around the 1st of Aug. 70-71 when the Apollo landings on the moon were still a big news story and they had the Lem commander on a live hook-up, the 1st thing he said was ‘’I’ve got a boggy at 3-o’clock, I’ve got a boggy at 10-o’clock’’ etc. several times he said it. I never heard another word about it, but I’m sure he was not talking about moon rocks.


90 posted on 04/21/2009 12:12:46 PM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much.)
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To: Ransomed

EXCELLENT QUESTION.

I’ve never been able to ferret out statistics on that.

My own wild guesstimate is . . .

and it’s truly a wild guesstimate merely from being immersed in the topic for 45+ years . . .

and . . . I think some individuals would kind of overlap some categories because they are uncertain etc. or shift frequently from one category to another.

1. Advanced humans or humanoids from another distant planet(s) etc. 60-90%

2. Bad advanced humans from elsewhere . . . 5-20%
3. Good advanced humans from elsewhere 55-85%

4. Spiritual beings/fallen angels bad 5-20%

5. spiritual good guys who created us etc. etc. etc. saviors . . . 10-30%

6. demons 3-15%

7. humans from our future time traveling back . . . 5-8%

I realize the %’s don’t add up to 100%. Sorry. Best I can do at present in my guessing.


91 posted on 04/21/2009 12:15:57 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Waco

James Lovell and Frank Borman

In December 1965, Gemini astronauts James Lovell and Frank Borman also saw a UFO during their second orbit of their record-breaking 14 day flight. Borman reported that he saw an unidentified spacecraft some distance from their capsule. Gemini Control, at Cape Kennedy told him that he was seeing the final stage of their own Titan booster rocket. Borman confirmed that he could see the booster rocket all right, but that he could also see something completely different.

During James Lovell’s flight on Gemini 7:

Lovell: BOGEY AT 10 O’CLOCK HIGH.

Capcom: This is Houston. Say again 7.
Lovell: SAID WE HAVE A BOGEY AT 10 O’CLOCK HIGH.

Capcom: Gemini 7, is that the booster or is that an actual sighting?
Lovell: WE HAVE SEVERAL...ACTUAL SIGHTING.

Capcom: ...Estimated distance or size?


92 posted on 04/21/2009 12:17:07 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Ransomed

BTW, I think that MOST FOLKS FORM OPINIONS ON MINISCULE AMOUNTS OF QUALITY INFO—MOSTLY FROM THEIR OWN BIASES, ASSUMPTIONS AND IGNORANCE.

Those who are best read on the topic are much more likely to see the ET’s as at least POTENTIALLY TO PROBABLY EVIL.

Those of us who realize they are in cahoots with the oligarchy see them as evil.

EXCELLENT QUESTION.

I’ve never been able to ferret out statistics on that.

My own wild guesstimate is . . .

and it’s truly a wild guesstimate merely from being immersed in the topic for 45+ years . . .

and . . . I think some individuals would kind of overlap some categories because they are uncertain etc. or shift frequently from one category to another.

1. Advanced humans or humanoids from another distant planet(s) etc. 60-90%

2. Bad advanced humans from elsewhere . . . 5-20%
3. Good advanced humans from elsewhere 55-85%

4. Spiritual beings/fallen angels bad 5-20%

5. spiritual good guys who created us etc. etc. etc. saviors . . . 10-30%

6. demons 3-15%

7. humans from our future time traveling back . . . 5-8%

I realize the %’s don’t add up to 100%. Sorry. Best I can do at present in my guessing.


93 posted on 04/21/2009 12:17:07 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

No problem, I figgered it would have to be some sorta guesstimate. Thanks!

I had an idea that the secular ways of looking at it would be the most common ways. I bet that wouldn’t be the case 500 years ago, of course.

I always think the time travel aspect is the neatest one, and it solves the problem of the folks who say everything is too far apart to ever come in contact. I reckon it would depend on how hard it would be to time travel vs. some sort of spatial travelling that could go ftl or it’s equivalent like “folding space”,ect.

Neat stuff to think about anyhow.

Freegards


94 posted on 04/21/2009 12:31:35 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Quix

Fascinating video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0m16vMRWng

some purported shots of a UFO being assembled.

whistleblower narration.


95 posted on 04/21/2009 12:33:50 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Ransomed

Thanks for your kind reply.

Some ET races have reportedly laughed atypically—they rarely do—when asked once by some scientists about the faster than light travel and great distances etc.

They essentially said that we were too ignorant to understand how ridiculous that concern was.

Others have said that there are

3-4 DIFFERENT ways around that supposed ‘barrier.’


96 posted on 04/21/2009 12:38:44 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Well, I’m not a true believer, but I always thought it was completely ridiculous to say stuff like “we’ll never go ftl, it’s impossible”. How many smart folks said the same thing about powered flight over the centuries?

Freegards


97 posted on 04/21/2009 12:46:19 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Ransomed

My feelings, too.

But as a layman about physics . . .

I was never hampered by the RELIGION OF SCIENTISM DOGMA

about such things . . . that we know about all there is to know etc. etc. etc. yada yada yada

What arrogant lunacy.


98 posted on 04/21/2009 1:24:52 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Well, Quix, you gotta admit that even thought the world is full of ‘experts’ pontificating in every sphere of human endeavor it remains a fact that rock solid proof and basic horse sense seem to be in short supply.

;)


99 posted on 04/21/2009 3:29:23 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: Quix

I could infiltrate a hippie freak protest and have the water cannons knock me down the boulevard.


100 posted on 04/21/2009 5:59:32 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Stop the pirates in Washington D.C.)
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