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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.timstouse.com/EarthHistory/planetx.htm

are all these cultural lores - the name Nibiru as derived from sumerian for planet of the crossing or “ferry” - fake then?

interesting story about a former astronaut trying to do archeological expedition into Antarctica after surviving “red genie”
http://www.lantis.tv/amp/releases/mars.html


30 posted on 03/06/2009 2:42:20 PM PST by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: silverleaf
Zecharia Sitchin's Errors: An Overview
by Michael S. Heiser
The goal here was to amass for readers every occurrence of the word "nibiru" in ancient cuneiform texts. Fortunately, this is possible because of the diligent work of the compilers of the well known Chicago Assyrian Dictionary, which bases its entries on exhaustive compilations of all cuneiform material know to the present day (there's a reason its taken decades to compile!). The study shows - from the texts themselves, not my opinion - that "Nibiru" is not a planet beyond Pluto and that the Anunnaki gods are never associated with it. These ideas are fabrications. Additionally, this study briefly details the sources left to us by the Mesopotamian scribes that are of an astronomical nature, and addresses Sitchin's "god to planet" matchups that he uses to reconstruct the cosmology of earth and our solar system. In other words, when Sitchin says "the god Marduk is the planet Nibiru" and proceeds to read this equation (and others) into the Sumero-Akkadian texts to interpret them, I compare such equations to the actual lists in cuneiform where Mesopotamian astronomers struck god = planet equations. Not surprisingly, they don't agree...

I was asked if I was willing to debate Mr. Sitchin two years ago by Art Bell on the air, and was asked again by Coast to Coast's weekend host, Barbara Simpson the same question months later. I accepted immediately; Mr. Sitchin has been silent; The only person who has responded to anything on this website has been the intrepid but unprepared Erik Parker, Sitchin's webmaster. To date Erik has not answered the questions below. He has not produced a single text that says Nibiru is a planet beyond Pluto, or that associates the Anunnaki with Nibiru. He has not refuted (or even understood) the points of Hebrew grammar I have introduced regarding "nephilim" and "elohim". (And in fairness, he can't be expected to since he has no language training). He has not explained why the Sumero-Akkadian story of building the tower (Sitchin says rocket ship) has the object being built with bricks, or why such advanced ETs as the Anunnaki came here with internal combustion engines. Most importantly, he has not explained why there has been no effort to arrange any sort of debate. Instead, Erik has attacked my motives and tried to twist parts of my discussions into "agreeing" with Sitchin (which is why I reproduce all our exchanges in whole - so you know who is twisting what). Zero response. Zero substance.
"Ali Zawas" and "Griffin Yeats" show up on web searches, but the pointers are to the "lantis.tv" site, or to other wacko sites which quote from / steal from each other.
31 posted on 03/06/2009 2:54:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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