The Adhd Fraud or Who Killed Rebecca Riley?

Fred A. Baughman, Jr., MD, Neurologist, Child Neurologist ^ | 06/22/07 | Fred A. Baughman

[Teacher317]

It's all about the money for them, kids.

1. Schools want kids to be labelled as special needs, so they can get more government funding (they get more per special needs student than per "normal" student). Period. There is no other motivation for them. It is not exactly a secret in education circles.
2. Psych workers want more influence, patients, and relevance, so they're happy to diagnose as many urchins as possible for the schools. Very few people in the world fail to qualify for some disorder under the book: DSM IV.
and...
3. Parents are usually happy that their child will get extra time, attention, and help on all assignments and tests... as well as increased responsibility for the schools, rather than for themselves. (Let's try passing a law that increases parental contributions to their child's education, and see how many suddenly oppose... I'm not saying all parents of diagnosed kids are bad/lazy/whatever, I'm just saying you'd see many change their minds once some measure of increased responsibility falls on their shoulders.)
4. Students are often happy to go along with the scheme, because it is far easier to get better grades, there's less stigma (now that everyone is getting diagnosed with something), and you get far more free time if you're "high-functioning" in the special ed classes.

[cinives]

still on the “nah nah nah I can’t hear you” routine ?

Why don’t you simply respond to the facts, not your feeeeelings ?

[xsmommy]

i don’t just FEEL that scientologists are loony, it’s a fact.

[agrace]

One more time, then I'm done.

You don’t know what this man credentials are or what his research affiliations are; but you are willing to accept blindly someone’s assertions that he’s a Scientologist and dismiss everything he says or writes accordingly.

If.

I. said. if.

I don't know if the man has affiliations with scientology. I don't care. I have not dismissed ANYTHING he has said. He might very well do amazing, necessary and productive work.

You are reading much, much more into my posts than is actually there.

I simply said that IF the man has connections to scientology, then his credibility is diminished no matter WHO he is.

I am making a general statement about scientology, not about anything else BUT scientology. Not neurology, not psychiatry, nor the disputes or agreements between the two. I am making a general statement about SCIENTOLOGY and its utter and complete lack of merit. Nothing else.

[Clam Digger]

What a lovely personal attack, when you don’t even know which side of the issue i stand on. You really are a jerk of the first class for that totally uncalled for attack. What a plain ass. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a jerky thing. You are a lowlife scumbag maggot. Piss off.

[cinives]

I have not dismissed ANYTHING he has said

No you haven't dismissed it; you've ignored it.

Go reread your posts and show me where you've even considered anything the man wrote. Everything you have posted has been about Scientology; I've been trying to direct your attention back to the article and the ideas contained therein.

[cinives]

OK, clarify your post, then. Your first post on this thread was to call some posters idiots.

You want to start again ?

[cinives]

sure ... now get let’s back to the contents of the article ...

[Clam Digger]

I don’t care a rats ass about the scientolgists and their mental problems, it’s the ignorant fools who deny the existence of ADD, ADHD and bipolar and claim all meds for treating it are bad.

[xsmommy]

not interested. you clearly are desperate to cling to the quackery upon which you rely. i have seen it and don’t buy it. peace out.

[cinives]

So why are you gracing this thread with your presence, then, since a discussion of the article is not of interest to you ?

[xsmommy]

i was pinged.

[half-cajun]

Wow. A sane person is on this thread.

[Clam Digger]

Thanks. The thread is prety well poisoned by some psycho who is off his meds, though.

[Lennyq]

Thanks for your contribution. The only problem with the scheme you describe is that the drugs they are prescibing to these children are no joke! Ritlan, Adderal and the like are all dangerous stimulants on par with cocaine and other illegal drugs. They all have serious side effects that I do not think anyone takes into account. In addition the children themselves may be having real problems that are not being addressed. I think this situation will go on for the time being but eventually the chickens will come home to roost!

[achilles2000]

A very nice summary of how it works...oo bad others can’t get the “dear old Mr. Chips” image of school administration out of their heads. And then there is the current generation of parents...

[agrace]

No you haven't dismissed it; you've ignored it.

Yes, that is correct, because my point is not about the doctor, as I keep saying. He could be a nuclear physicist, a cabaret singer or my neighbor with the cool new Mustang.

If any of the above are Scientologists, I cannot help but treat them prejudicially based on their willingness to embrace such an unmitigated farce.

Go reread your posts and show me where you've even considered anything the man wrote. Everything you have posted has been about Scientology; I've been trying to direct your attention back to the article and the ideas contained therein.

THANK YOU. You're RIGHT! My point has ALWAYS been about scientology.

Have a great afternoon, cinives. :)

[TASMANIANRED]

Bipolar is definitely real...but I don’t think it can be diagnosed as young as 2....

The age of 2 has been described as “the terrible 2’s” for a reason....