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50 Years After Roswell, New Evidence, Testimony Shed Light on UFO Crash
Associated Content ^ | 07-05-07 | Ranger

Posted on 07/05/2007 2:27:40 PM PDT by mission9

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To: Names Ash Housewares
When the facts change ...

That's making the stupid presumption that you're informed of the facts and are in possession of the physical evidence. Carl Sagan is right, but forgets to mention that extraordinary claims and evidence will certainly inspire extraordinary opposition. I have no doubt, nor did Gordon Cooper, for example, that the government has taken such extraordinary measures. For good or bad (I tend to think for good), but extraordinary is as extraordinary does. Sagan's quote is moot.

You ask what I do. I base my conclusions on independent thought and trust my common sense, imagination, and instincts even when they are inconvenient and unpopular. I've done well by myself in trusting my ability to be an original thinker. I figure I'm in good company. Much of the best science in the world has been inspired by imagination and instinct. If I remember correctly, Einstein said as much many times.

I'm impressed that you crunch radio telescope data, but not impressed that you think that covers everything, including the human element. I repeat that Scott Peterson's lawyer would have liked to have had you on the jury.

81 posted on 07/05/2007 11:31:05 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: mission9

Well, yes, except this society has been prepared for such an announcement to be an “Oh, goodie!” thing more or less — that these aliens are our friends, that they’re going to “help us save the planet” and presumably help save us from ourselves. I believe that evil is afoot through them and that when humankind is made “officially” aware of them, religion (specifically, Christianity) will be the only salvation, and it will be an ugly, frightening time.


82 posted on 07/05/2007 11:38:22 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: Finny

Original thought or instincts are not evidence.

If it leads you to actual evidence. Great.

I look forward to reading about it in Scientific American, National Geographic and every front page of every newspaper on earth.

Then it will have my due attention.


83 posted on 07/06/2007 12:15:37 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: mission9

Sorry, won’t wash. The idea is they never appear to anyone who could actually verify their existence, which, if they were real, just by ACCIDENT they would land on the “anthill” of LA or San Antonio or something. They wouldn’t care if they burned a few “ants.”


84 posted on 07/06/2007 5:17:01 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Finny

Actually, in my days as a rock and roll drummer, I swear I met a couple of these aliens backstage after . . . well, never mind.


85 posted on 07/06/2007 5:17:54 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: ANGGAPO
There is or was a gun shop owner in Baltimore that was asked to repeat that shooting since he was a well qualified marksman. He did it with time to spare using a like rifle.

I've never actually been to the spot where it happened. From what I'm hearing now, the range was apparently a great deal shorter than is commonly believed. That makes more sense now.
86 posted on 07/06/2007 6:41:20 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: nmh
Roswell has become a RELIGION!

That statement also speaks volumes about the nature of religions.

87 posted on 07/06/2007 6:43:49 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
It has been proven to me that Oswald was a nut and good with a rifle.

"Shows what one motivated Marine and his rifle can do."

88 posted on 07/06/2007 6:46:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: mission9

89 posted on 07/06/2007 7:13:48 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: JamesP81

...the range was apparently a great deal shorter...

Add a 4 power scope and the range is even less


90 posted on 07/06/2007 2:29:59 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: JamesP81

First hit was at 44 yards and the second hit at 88.


91 posted on 07/06/2007 3:59:29 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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First hit was at 44 yards and the second hit at 88.

Well, that explains it. 44 yards isn't a very hard shot. I used to could pop soda cans at 200 with open sights without too much trouble. I'm a little too nearsighted for that now.
92 posted on 07/06/2007 4:16:32 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: Quix; Las Vegas Dave
Ping!

93 posted on 07/08/2007 4:15:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (This tagline optimized for the Mosaic browser. Profile updated Friday, July 6, 2007.)
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To: bill1952

How much does the government pay you every time you post that idiotic pic on such a thread?

Can others sign up for that debunker’s gravy train?


94 posted on 07/08/2007 4:32:48 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: mission9; Admin Moderator

Admin Mod

It should be 60 years, not 50.


95 posted on 07/08/2007 10:27:32 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ANGGAPO
“... a gun shop owner in Baltimore repeat[ed] the shot ... with time to spare using a like rifle.”

You are probably referring to Howard Donohue, who was one of eleven expert marksmen (Maryland state troopers, ballistics-lab employees, Vietnam vets, etc.) who were asked by CBS to participate in an elaborate reenactment of the Kennedy assassination (and “test” of the Warren Commission hypotheses) on a reconstructed set at the H.P. White Ballistics Laboratory in Maryland. Donohue and the eleven participants were given three chances to fire three shots at a moving target dummy in less than 5.7 seconds and score at least two hits. Donohue failed the first two times, and on the third time managed to score three hits in 5.2 seconds. He was the only one of the eleven to beat Oswald’s alleged time of 5.6 seconds with at least two hits.

But you probably don’t want to cite Donohue in support of a lone-assasin theory or a single-bullet theory. In addition to being a gun-shop owner, Donohue was a ballistics expert and serious student of the Kennedy assasination. Donohue believed, until the day he died, that Kennedy was hit by two very different bullets - in the neck with a 6.5 mm bullet consistent with Oswald’s Carcano and in the head with a thin-jacketed .223 cal round consistent with an AR-15.

Donohue’s evidence was written up in the book, Mortal Error by Bonar Menninger. Donohue’s thesis was that the head shot was fired accidentally by a trailing Secret Service agent amidst the chaos and confusion following the first two of Oswald’s shots (one of which hit Kennedy). While subsequent investigations have shown this to be high unlikely, it may that the .223 bullet was fired from a separate rear location.

96 posted on 07/09/2007 7:46:46 AM PDT by riverdawg
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