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To: NYer
Agreed! Shroud Story is the most comprehensive resource on the Shroud of Turin.

I already complimented Shroudie on his website as the most "more accessible . . . easier to navigate," and that it contains ". . . more succinct descriptions and explanations" than any other site... including Barrie Schworz's Shroud.com website, but I give the nod on most comprehensive to Barrie. I am pretty sure that Shroudie would agree. Barrie maintains his site not only as a repository of the photographic record of the 1978 Shroud of Turin Research Project photographs, but also as a sort of clearing house for scientific and scholarly articles that makes it the premier Shroud source on the web. Barrie provides us the opportunity to read the primary sources for ourselves.

I think that Shroudie's website's organization, it's consistent design, and his well written, popular style articles make it the most accessible for laymen to understand the sometimes turgid prose found in the scientific articles republished and archived on Barrie's site. Shroudie has a great talent for cutting through the mind numbing blur that tables, formulae, statistical analysis, and dry prose tend to induce in most readers of scientific papers and slice out the meat to tell us the most important conclusions and how those conclusions fit with the other research results reported.

Both are the best of the web based Shroud resources available and complement each other.

Thanks to both Barrie and Shroudie for taking on this task.

14 posted on 02/08/2005 6:26:33 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Swordmaker

Here is the story from Zenit News Service, yesterday.

Dan

Date: 2002-08-20

Scientists Find Errors in Dating of Shroud of Turin

Believe That Medieval-Era Mending Skewed Results

ROME, AUG. 20, 2002 (Zenit.org).- New studies reveal that the 1988 carbon-14 dating analysis of the Shroud of Turin did not take into consideration the mending done to the cloth in the Middle Ages.

"The mending was medieval, not the shroud," wrote Orazio Petrosillo in the Roman newspaper Il Messaggero. Petrosillo is the author of several books on the cloth widely believed to be the burial linen of Jesus.

Petrosillo explained that during the Middle Ages it was very common to use a type of sewing -- invisible to the naked eye -- to reinforce fabrics of artistic or historical value.

According to Petrosillo, whose thesis is based on studies by U.S. scientists Sue Benford and Joseph Marino, researchers from laboratories at Oxford, England; Tucson, Arizona; and Zurich, Switzerland, examined the shroud in 1988 without realizing it was mended with linen in the 16th century. That study concluded the shroud was made sometime between 1260 and 1390.

The new thesis was articulated after scientists presented fabric experts with a series of photographs of one of the small pieces of cloth of the shroud taken in 1988 for carbon-14 dating, as well as a section which was not used. The three experts agreed that there are different weaves in the sections analyzed.

According to Beta Analytic, a radiocarbon-dating service, a mixture of 60% of 16th-century material with 40% of first-century material could lead to a dating of the 13th century. The calculation of percentages is based on the observations of the three fabric experts.

Petrosillo also quotes the study of chemist Ray Rogers, who was part of the Sturp group of U.S. scientists that examined the shroud in 1978.

Rogers had linen fibers of both the area of the cloth taken to carry out the carbon-14 analysis (cut out by the Belgian fabrics expert Gilbert Raes in 1973) as well as other parts of the shroud.

Both in the section extracted by Raes as well as that used in 1988, the fibers are impregnated by a dark yellow substance, whose color varies in density from one fiber to another.

However, the fibers of the rest of the shroud do not have this substance. According to the experts, it is a type of yellow vegetable glue, often used in the past.

Rogers has verified that there is an invisible mend in the piece taken out by Raes, like those made in the 16th century.

In fact, a thread of Raes' section was dated with the carbon-14 method at the California Institute of Technology.

Half the thread turned out to be covered by starch. The thread was divided into two equal parts: the part without starch turned out to be of the third century, while the part with starch was dated in the 13th century.

Petrosillo concluded that the shroud continues to raise scientific questions calling for new and more adequate study.




16 posted on 02/09/2005 12:33:12 PM PST by shroudie (http://www.shroudstory.com)
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