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Dumbing down: the proof [a copy of a test for 11-year-olds from 1898]
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | November 27, 2004 | No author

Posted on 11/28/2004 5:50:10 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

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The way it used to be.
1 posted on 11/28/2004 5:50:10 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

And then the whole generation which passed that test got killed off in WW-I.....


2 posted on 11/28/2004 5:57:39 AM PST by judywillow
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using tactics no American commander ever would have used after Picket's charge...


3 posted on 11/28/2004 5:58:16 AM PST by judywillow
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The test is from England, but American tests were almost as challenging. Have a look some time at American Algebra texts from the early 1900s. The notion of teaching even a tiny fraction of that material (at that level) to current American students is ludicrous.


4 posted on 11/28/2004 6:00:34 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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using tactics no American commander ever would have used after Picket's charge...
except for Grant at Cold Harbor.
5 posted on 11/28/2004 6:00:42 AM PST by William of Orange (So what was da plan, John?)
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To: judywillow

And as for using the best and the brightest as cannon fodder, that's nothing new in history. In the opening lines of his "Theaetetus", Plato allows Socrates to assail (in a subtle way) the stupidity of Athen's political leaders as shown by their willingness to send a young genius, Theaetetus, into a vicious battle which ended up costing him his life.


6 posted on 11/28/2004 6:05:00 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

I would fail that test ignominiously, except maybe for some of the arithmetic... I've had tests at university that were less challenging than that!

I feel dumb now... bigwinkysmiley


7 posted on 11/28/2004 6:05:49 AM PST by William of Orange (So what was da plan, John?)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Amen.

At the old Georgia Military Academy (in Marietta), which is now a conference center/hotel, they have on display the curriculum for high schoolers from the 1860's.

If anyone thinks it's easy, or desgined to make sure none of the students suffer from "low self-esteem," they are sorely mistaken.


8 posted on 11/28/2004 6:08:43 AM PST by Guillermo (Michael Moore is fat)
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To: William of Orange

"I'm not feeling so good myself!"


9 posted on 11/28/2004 6:13:25 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Guillermo
Speaking of 'self-esteem', here's another (related) "Spectator" article that I posted a few minutes ago:

Know your place

10 posted on 11/28/2004 6:15:26 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

Who builds a room 13' 6" wide?


11 posted on 11/28/2004 6:17:21 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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Test writers?


12 posted on 11/28/2004 6:27:20 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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Who builds a room 13' 6" wide?


using 14 foot framing material ... a very common, sometimes the cheapest per ft.

walls would be 14 ft on center ... leaving the width of the wall and wall finishes to be deducted from the clear width.

you probably have a room like that in your home.


13 posted on 11/28/2004 6:28:56 AM PST by THEUPMAN (#### comment deleted by moderator)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Well, don't be too hard on American schoolchildren. They learn all about putting condoms on bananas and cucumbers, the various types of STD's, positions for homosexual sex, Muslim holidays and beliefs, why communism and socialism are good, studying art such as crucifxes in urine, and so on.

We know A LOT in America!


14 posted on 11/28/2004 6:33:08 AM PST by Conservatrix ("He's a barf." --- Sophia T., Age 4, on John Sawed-Off Baldrick "I have a cunning plan" Kerry)
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To: snarks_when_bored
For Athen's political leaders in my post #6 please read Athens' political leaders.
15 posted on 11/28/2004 6:47:12 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Conservatrix

Too true.


16 posted on 11/28/2004 6:48:05 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: THEUPMAN

And people who know something about carpentry?


17 posted on 11/28/2004 6:49:23 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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I think it was originally 14' but as they layered one after another sheet of wall paper it shrunk inward like a giant trash compacter. Or perhaps they practiced their fractional equations on the wall- 31/32 x 435/9 + one metric cow at 3L 6 shillings x the wagers lost on darts at the pub to the 5th power = what king of England?
18 posted on 11/28/2004 6:59:32 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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To: snarks_when_bored

would love to see a test from some public "school" today for contrast.


19 posted on 11/28/2004 7:02:36 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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20 posted on 11/28/2004 9:59:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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