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1914: Seven retreating Frenchmen, with surprising results
ExecutedToday.com ^ | September 7th, 2014 | Headsman

Posted on 09/08/2023 7:05:12 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat

One hundred years ago today, during the Battle of the Marne, seven French soldiers were shot without trial for retreating. Most of the resources about this Gallic tragedy are in French, and so are most of the links in today’s post.

All were enlistees of France’s 327th Infantry Regiment. On the night of September 6, German shelling panicked their sister 270th Regiment into a disorderly retreat away from the front lines. That rout ran right into the 327th, behind them, and panicked that regiment too.

Further in the army’s rear, the hubbub awoke from his farmhouse bivouac division commander Gen. Rene Boutegourd. Boutegard had a simple solution, and ordered seven of the soldiers caught away from their posts to be executed the next morning by way of example. While the war’s later years would feature notoriously unfair courts-martial with predetermined sentences, Gen. Boutegourd didn’t even see the need to pay that much tribute to procedural regularity in this case.

The Battle of the Marne was still ongoing, and the situation in the field, pre-trench warfare, was fluid. Shoot them out of hand and be done with it! Then, the rest of the division will understand the consequences of unauthorized retreat.....

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To: DaBroasta

If you get a chance watch “ A very long engagement”.

In french with subs, incredible cinematography, great acting.
follows several french soldiers, tried for cowardice, who are sent into no man’s land to be killed and the search by their
loved ones for what happened...and justice.

Excellent film!!!


21 posted on 09/08/2023 7:37:59 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NorthMountain

Speaking of The Great War.

This is the best series on it. They are also fantastic with WWII.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB2vhKMBjSxO1lsrC98VOyOzfW0Gn8Tga

I don’t particularly care for the ones they did, since Indy left.


22 posted on 09/08/2023 7:38:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: darkangel82

If France wasn’t allied with Russia, then the war would have been just between the Germans and the Russians.

Because of France’s alliance, Germany felt they had to knock out France first, to get to Russia.

The Czar wasn’t worth saving.


23 posted on 09/08/2023 7:40:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Bookmarked.

Is he the same narrator as did the “Sabaton History” videos?


24 posted on 09/08/2023 7:41:18 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: DaBroasta
Great movie, but any movie with George Macready is worth watching. Gilda, Seven Days in May....
25 posted on 09/08/2023 7:42:10 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: NorthMountain

Yes, that’s him.

I haven’t watched to Sabaton History videos yet. But it’s on my To-Do List.


26 posted on 09/08/2023 7:42:56 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: tet68; MotorCityBuck

I’ll have to check these movies out—thanks!


27 posted on 09/08/2023 7:47:31 AM PDT by DaBroasta ("An armed society is a polite society" Heinlein)
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To: dfwgator

They’re good. His WWI and WWII videos are now on my list.

And listening to Sabaton is always on my list.


28 posted on 09/08/2023 7:48:25 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: econjack
France had as many soldiers die in four years in World War I as the US has lost in every single war we have fought from the Revolution to the present combined.

And since France is much smaller than the US it was a much larger percentage of their population - almost 5% of the total population died, which is a huge percentage of military aged males. You do what you want but i would not make that joke.

29 posted on 09/08/2023 7:52:53 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: CheshireTheCat

The Battle of the Marne may have been -the- most pivotal battle of WWI, as the German failure to advance and cut-off the French defenders made it impossible to fulfill the Schlieffen plan. The French dug in and after falling back, the British did also, starting the line of trenches that would define the war. My great-grandfather served all four years in WWI, with a year off to go chase after natives who revolted in North Africa during the festivities in Europe. He was mentioned in dispatches in 1918 for pontoon bridges put in place under heavy German artillery fire as the Germans retreated.


30 posted on 09/08/2023 8:11:09 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Jolla

I have the play station video game Verdun. It has several WWI battle scenarios. I’ve played the game 1000s of times. I get killed every time. Then, if you retreat without orders, you get shot in the back by an officer as a coward.


31 posted on 09/08/2023 8:18:03 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: econjack
"On August 22, 1914, during the Battle of the Frontiers, five separate French armies engaged the German invaders independently of each other. Across all those battlefields, on that single day, 27,000 French soldiers lost their lives protecting their country."

I think they only laid down their arms when deceased.

32 posted on 09/08/2023 8:24:13 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: MotorCityBuck

“If those sweethearts won’t face German bullets, they’ll face French ones”
Classic Kubrick


33 posted on 09/08/2023 9:35:38 AM PDT by SloppyDrummer (There's a place for us...)
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To: dfwgator

“The Czar wasn’t worth saving.”

Nor was Russia.


34 posted on 09/08/2023 10:08:23 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: SloppyDrummer
LOL! Great Line. Delivered by a True Heavy. George Macready.
35 posted on 09/08/2023 10:33:49 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: econjack

The Complete Military History of France

* Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian (Julius Caesar).

* Hundred Years War - Mostly lost. Saved at last moment by schizophrenic teenaged girl, who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare: “France’s armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman.”

* Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars to the Italians.

* Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots

* Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

* War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.

* The Dutch War - Tied

* War of the Augsburg League/King William’s War/French and Indian War - Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

* War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.

* American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as “de Gaulle Syndrome”, and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare: “France only wins when America does most of the fighting.”

* French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

* The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

* The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France’s ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

* World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States.

* World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

* War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

* Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; “We can always beat the French.


36 posted on 09/08/2023 12:40:49 PM PDT by sloanrb
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To: sloanrb
Well here's one French victory:


37 posted on 09/08/2023 12:42:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Pete Dovgan
As C. S. Lewis wrote in his autobiography,

"Peace to them all. A worse fate awaited any of them than the most vindictive fag among us could have wished. Ypres and the Some are up most of them. They were happy while their good days lasted."

38 posted on 09/08/2023 1:06:34 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: sloanrb

That was P.J. O’Rourke, wasn’t it?


39 posted on 09/08/2023 1:10:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: dfwgator

Wow. I’ve never heard that before, and (at least to a combat vet) it’s pretty powerful stuff…


40 posted on 09/08/2023 3:26:04 PM PDT by umbagi (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it. [Twain])
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