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1 posted on 04/20/2023 10:51:52 AM PDT by Conservativetpa
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And 35 million of them won’t even know it because they don’t keep up with 2A developments.


2 posted on 04/20/2023 10:56:25 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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The rule change is stupid and the scope of people affected (millions) is well beyond the ability of ATF to process the ATF Form 4 to issue the tax stamps. The correct solution is to abolish the NFA categories for SBR, SBS and AOW. Treat them as standard firearms. The Form 4473 was already processed for those purchases. It will save a ton of time and money to eliminate these categories.
3 posted on 04/20/2023 10:56:35 AM PDT by Myrddin
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I do not care what the ATF says or demands, like water off a duck’s back.


6 posted on 04/20/2023 11:03:36 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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What’s the deadline? Nobody suing, no judge blocking? Ridiculous.


7 posted on 04/20/2023 11:03:46 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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I would normally say don’t ask don’t tell but with this tyrant in office and trigger happy federal agents they will most likely send in teams to MURDER the uppity serfs that don’t do what they say.


8 posted on 04/20/2023 11:05:52 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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The Broomhandle’ Mauser (a WWII souvenir), had a wooden holster that could attach as a stock. My father had one.


9 posted on 04/20/2023 11:12:05 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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Does that apply to wrist-rockets too?


10 posted on 04/20/2023 11:13:20 AM PDT by fretzer
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There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt.


11 posted on 04/20/2023 11:21:01 AM PDT by The Louiswu (You cannot free a man from the chains which he reveres.)
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A stabilizing brace makes a firearm illegal? Where in the 2A is that coming from?


12 posted on 04/20/2023 11:26:15 AM PDT by gitmo
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They can make up a law from thin air? What happened to the USA?


14 posted on 04/20/2023 11:27:22 AM PDT by gitmo
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Anti gun pimps and whores abandon logic. They simply look to incrementally infringe on the 2nd Amendment. Look at the ‘68 and ‘86 gun control acts. Did nothing and accomplished nothing except make life more difficult for legal gun owners.


18 posted on 04/20/2023 11:53:56 AM PDT by LouAvul (Daniel 4:17: "..the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.." )
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Where did the 40,000,000 number come from?


19 posted on 04/20/2023 11:55:11 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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"Rep. Matt Gaetz: 40 Million Law-Abiding Gun Owners Now Facing Criminal Penalties"

Respectfully to Rep. Gaetz, why doesn't he effectively exercise single lawmaker majority power by pointing out the following major constitutional problem with peacetime restrictive federal gun laws?

Consider that the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, had clarified that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the big, bad federal government (my words) the specific power to make peacetime penal code, not even for murder!

In fact, the Supreme Court later clarified in United States v. Cruikshank that the purpose of the 2nd Amendment (2A) is to constitutionally identify the untrusted federal government as a possible enemy of the people (my words).

"The second and tenth counts are equally defective. The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress [emphasis added]. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is called, in The City of New York v. Miln, 11 Pet. 139, the "powers which relate to merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the Constitution of the United States." —United States v. Cruikshank, 1875.

Given the constitutionally recognized possibility of Congress being the enemy of the people, the federal government doesn't need to know anything about the people's munitions of 2A-protected weapons imo.

Also, is it any surprise that Constitution-ignoring FDR is regarded by some as the father of modern gun control?

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control (Non-FR)

So patriots need to make it clear to federal career lawmakers that they're going to get primaried in 2024 if they don't quit messing with our 2A protections.

On second thought, forget about 2A and primary all career state and federal lawmakers anyway so that Trump 47 has the full support of both state and federal governments.

After Trump finishes draining the swamp which hopefully includes an all-new judiciary, then he can spend the remainder of his second term on the golf course which the drafters of the Constitution had arguably intended for the peacetime president of the constitutionally limited power federal government to do.

21 posted on 04/20/2023 12:20:50 PM PDT by Amendment10
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I wonder how the atf would classify a firearm stock like this old one. A Petronel.
https://www.artic.edu/iiif/2/89b92bd4-4315-5f85-0a1d-ebbaa66e4737/full/843,/0/default.jpg


22 posted on 04/20/2023 12:25:45 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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