The Air Force Wants To Retire The A-10 Warthog. Congress Says Nope.

19FortyFive ^ | 7/31/2021 | Peter Suciu

[Onthebrink]

A typical misconception is that the military always seeks to enlarge its force, obtain more equipment and keep what it has – while it is lawmakers who want to cut budgets and force a downsizing of ships and planes as cost-cutting measures. However, when it comes to the A-10 Thunderbolt II – known affectionately as the Warthog – it is the United States Air Force that is being “forced” to retain an aircraft the service would like to retire.

[Mr. Lucky]

Hello?

[RckyRaCoCo]

Hasn't conventional warfare become like a...dial phone?

...antiquated?

Q : "Well, I'll hazard I can do more damage on my laptop sitting in my pajamas before my first cup of Earl Grey than you can do in a year in the field..."

Economic/digital warfare(and greedy traitors/financiers) is/are the "doomsday weapon" many warned us about...not missiles from norks/other foreign terrorists.

James Bond : Oh, so why do you need me?

Q : Every now and then a trigger has to be pulled

...to protect freedom for us(serfs)...or financial interests for them(globalist oligarchs)?

Look around...not a lot of "freedom" being protected right now...among the serf-class anyway.

Besides...YOUR(FED)gov. law enforcement agencies are on record as saying, America's biggest threat comes from... "white supremacists"...so guess we need to spend a trillion dollars annually to protect America from...a handful of "domestic" penniless, toothless, powerless, "racists" with third-grade educations?

HEADLINE: "Biden mocked gun-rights advocates who say they need assault weapons to fight the government" 'You need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons'...

...yes, HE/THEY are "series".

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Why is the nose smoking?

(just kidding!)

[JoeRender]

The should make a new version of the plane. The air frames on the current stock are getting old.

[MSF BU]

There was a thought that the Army should take that over and the Air Force take on all Air Defense...don’t wait for that to happen either. Senator Sam Nunn was basically the reason the A-10 was built at all; the Air Force didn’t want it then.

[ZOOKER]

I really like the P-51 mustang too, but I won't make the AF fly it. It had its day.

A-10 is awesome, but maybe its time is up too. The company that built it is long gone, along with all the tooling. Maintenance must be a nightmare. Maybe it's time for a clean sheet attack aircraft? I bet we can do it.

Stop trying to give it to the Army, the AF would never allow it. It was decided long ago that AF does fixed-wing, Army does rotorcraft. It's a turf issue the AF won't give up.

[tired&retired]

They train in the area of wilderness over our hunting camp.

I was several miles back in, alone, sitting in the outhouse with the door open when an A-10 went over at tree top level.

It was an experience.... I do not care to repeat.

[IgnorerOfLiberals]

I thought the Kenyan already tried this.

[DesertRhino]

Yes, there are places where you can actually do something loosely defined as CAS with JDAMs from a B1. But some simply cannot. There’s no such thing as a gun run near like the ones that have saved lots of men in places where you can’t drop a JDAM. And though defense contractors love it, killing 4 guys with a 60 year old RPK with a precision weapon is a waste of cash.

[jz638]

Both the A-10 and F-35 have been tested during wartime and proven themselves to be excellent at their primary missions, reliably delivering payloads onto targets.

The biggest difference between the two is that the F-35’s payload is taxpayer dollars and its target is defense contractors and lobbyists.

[IgnorerOfLiberals]

Nothing that a nice surveillance photo couldn’t clear up. Never shown. Idiot.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Air Bombardment Table - OMAHA BEACH - Air Bombardment

Unit	Target	Target - Coodinates	Target - Type	Times over Target	Force
8th Air Force 3rd Bombardment Division	10/J/66	089806	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero minus 10	5 Squadrons
	10/J/49	015850	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	7 Squadrons
	10/J/56	049832	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	4 Squadrons
	10/J/120
	10/J/59	067818	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	7 Squadrons
	10/J/152
	10/J/122	106801	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	7 Squadrons
	10/J/187	993818	88mm Bat.	zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	2 Squadrons
	10/J/79	138790	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero	5 Squadrons
	10/J/80	152793	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero	5 Squadrons
	10/J/62	076782	Coastal	zero minus 10 to zero plus 10	2 Squadrons
	10/J/69	103780	Coastal	zero minus 10 to zero plus 10	2 Squadrons
	10/J/47	972809	Coastal	zero minus 10 to zero plus 10	2 Squadrons
	10/E/4	058740	Regtl. Hq.	zero to zero plus 3	1 Squadron
	10/E/48	016700	Div. Hq.	zero to zero plus 3	1 Squadron
	10/J/60	073774	Bn. Hq.	zero to zero plus 3	1 Squadron
	10/Q/3	003822	Bn. Hq.	zero to zero plus 3	1 Squadron
	10/J/48	994855	Strongpoint		5 Squadrons
	10/J/186	047772	Coastal		2 Squadrons
	10/Q/7			zero plus 5 to zero plus 37	16 Squadrons
Unit	Target	Target - Coodinates	Target - Type	Times over Target	Force
8th Air Force 2nd Bombardment Division	10/J/5	637928		zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	6 Squadrons
	10/J/6	646919		zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	6 Squadrons
	10/J/7	649916		zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	6 Squadrons
	10/J8	655912		zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	6 Squadrons
	10/J/9	665906		zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	12 Squadrons
	10/J/12	677900		zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	6 Squadrons
	10/J/13	678896		zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	6 Squadrons
	10/J/14			zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	6 Squadrons
	10/J/15	693893		zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	6 Squadrons
	10/J/16	699890		zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	6 Squadrons
	10/J/18	748880	Strongpoint	zero minus 20 to zero minus 5	4 Squadrons
	10/J/19
	10/J/21	756878	Strongpoint	zero minus 20 to zero minus 5	5 Squadrons
Unit	Target	Target - Coodinates	Target - Type	Times over Target	Force
8th Air Force 1st Bombardment Division	10/J/125	797870	Coastal	zero minus 40 to zero plus 10	6 Squadrons
	10/J/39	886867	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero minus 15	4 Squadrons
	10/J/40	907869	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero minus 15	4 Squadrons
	10/J/42	926868	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero minus 10	5 Squadrons
	10/J/38	877866	Coastal	zero minus 30 to zero minus 10	6 Squadrons
	10/J/36	860863	Coastal	zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	5 Squadrons
	10/J/41		Coastal	zero minus 30 to zero minus 5
	10/J/45	965858	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	5 Squadrons
	10/J/118
	10/J/46	972856	Strongpoint	zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	5 Squadrons
	10/J/159	848853	Coastal	zero minus 30 to zero minus 5	5 Squadrons
		925865	Strongpoint	zero minus 20 to zero minus 10	3 Squadrons
	10/J/35	853864	Strongpoint	zero minus 20 to zero minus 5	6 Squadrons
	10/J/178			zero minus 20 to zero
	10/K/11	924862	Strongpoint	zero minus 10 to zero minus 5	1 Squadron
	10/J/184	883833	Rocket Gun	zero to zero plus 10	3 Squadrons
	10/Q/7			zero plus 41 to zero plus 65	11 Squadrons

[Caipirabob]

Who wants to retire the hog? The pilots or some cross dressing faggoty ass obama promoted knob gobbling general?

[AdmSmith]

The A-10 Warthog Is Preparing For Its Biggest Upgrade In Over A Decade

The USAF completed a project to re-wing a portion of its A-10C fleet on July 25, 2019. The project began in 2007 when Boeing received a $1.1-billion contract to provide 173 sets of wings. The new wings are expected to last for up to 10,000 equivalent flight hours without requiring a depot inspection and will permit the modified aircraft to remain in service through 2030 or beyond.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37233/the-a-10-warthog-is-preparing-for-its-biggest-upgrade-in-over-a-decade

[Flick Lives]

I’ve heard suspicions that it was a missile loaded Warthog that hit the Pentagon on 911.

—

Put down the bong, Hunter.

[cornfedcowboy]

I would imagine our drone capabilities are growing exponentially.

[Yo-Yo]

I’m sure the Marines could put it to good use.

I'm sure they could, but the Marines already have F/A-18s, F-35Bs, F-35Cs, and the AH-1Z. I doubt they need the A-10, nor do I think the Navy would be interested in allowing it.

[Mariner]

“And though defense contractors love it, killing 4 guys with a 60 year old RPK with a precision weapon is a waste of cash.”

Well, it depends.

The questions to be answered are...

How often is such a mission required, or anticipated over all scenarios?

What is the cost of maintaining a fleet of CAS-only aircraft for this mission vs the cost of doing it another way?

Certainly if US forces anticipated a grinding ground war in Korea you could make a case (though not a perfect case) for keeping the A-10.

In almost all other scenarios it’s just a target.

I think the best argument for keeping it is that it’s exciting to imagine what it can do...up close.

But am convinced it’s a poor fiscal and military decision to do so.

[high info voter]

Bet you’ve never seen the pic of the Pentagon after the crash and prior to the facade falling....... no passenger jet!

[AdmSmith]

and this is a good video :
These America’s A-10 Warthog that Enemy Should Fear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi9GxCZ3DO0