Posted on 11/06/2019 6:48:54 AM PST by Enlightened1
Yep. I was dumbfounded when talking to people in my church. The problem is that here in the “south”, Democrats are often more conservative than northeastern Republicans. So “local” democrats don’t have the bad name of DC democrats.
I think Bevin is asking for a recount as the margin of victory seems to be .04%, if I remember correctly.
To those who got any kind of Kentucky monetary assistance Bevin was the devil. I had once church member (on assistance) saying that Bevin was taking the money out of his pocket to pay for his rich friends. Right or wrong that’s the perceptive and that’s what he was up against. Also Beshear ran smart (but probably dishonest) ads. He did NOT distance himself from Trump. His ads had people saying “I’m a Trump supporter, but this time I’m vote for Bashear.” or some such tripe.
Proof that numbers don’t lie, but liars use numbers. The only totals that count are total votes cast for each candidate (not GOP winning totals only). If all races closely match the totals for both sides, there was no obvious fraud.
Bevin was supposed to lose this race by over 15%, so of course he is going to have a lower total then superior candidates. I would say that the DEM extra turnout in their districts was cause for concern, but the GOP also had a way above average turnout. The last similar turnout was 31%, this election the turnout was over 42%.
Both sides had an above average turnout and GOP won handily minus the weak, unlikable Bevin. For him to be this close is a reflection of the President’s coattails.
That’s not actually “proof”, but something worth digging into. The first thing I would be doing would be seeing if the total votes case by race was pretty consistent, or if the Governor’s race was significantly lower than the others. That could indicate “missing” ballots.
If the ballot totals are in-line, then next I would look at other counties, or precincts within the same county. The percentages won by each of the candidates across all of the races should be fairly consistent. So, if the Governor’s race was 51% to 49% in one county, then that should be substantially similar in other counties with similar demographics. If, however, other counties for 51%-49%, and this one was 58%-42%, then there’s something odd going on.
The Republican governor in Kansas was defeated by Kris Kobach in the primary. Trump had endorsed Kobach, big mistake.
Kobach is a Bevin-like politician who turned Kansas blue. Now Kobach is trying to lose the Senate seat in Kansas. Hopefully Mike Pompeo will run instead.
This seems like motivation to split the ticket.
One as the Washington Post notes, he only got into office four years ago by a thin 85,000-vote margin. So he was on thin ice all through his term and didn’t work to increase his support.
Two, he had a third party challenge. Sen. Rand Paul is a popular Senator in Kentucky and on that ground alone, his libertarian allies managed to run a third-party candidate that won 2% of the vote. Had they not, Bevin might have pulled through.
Three, and this seems to have been the big one: Bevin wasn’t popular. A poll that ran in April had him ranked as the least popular governor in all 50 states. According to the WaPo, he had a brash abrasive personality that tended to annoy people.
and toss in he wasn’t a native son!
I remember when Matt Bevin first ran for Governor, that they tried to link him to illegal cockfighting interests because of some public meeting where the latter were present.
I thought, if that’s all they got against him, he must be the real deal as a conservative.
Guess it’s more complicated than that. Was Bevin unpopular among all the right people (liberals), or did it go deeper?
Any statewide or federal election in this country with a .003 % “win” for a democrat is a stolen election.
There’s an article on VOX that does a fairly decent job of explaining it. Some liberal bias, of course... but, it’s relatively accurate.
There were a few things, but by far the biggest was the proposed changes to the Teacher’s retirement fund. Note, other public employees were NOT affected.
For the teachers, all existing teachers would be required to chip in 3% of their salaries to help shore up the fund. That, was NOT popular.
For all NEW teachers, they would no longer be offered the defined benefit program.. they would be moved to a 401K plan, with an aggressive matching component. You know, like practically EVERY business did 20 years ago. Except the matching was higher than most businesses.
The teacher’s union flat out revolted.
To make it even worse, the idiot legislators tried to SNEAK these changes through with political shenanigans. They amended a Sewer Bill to try to subvert review requirements, and got caught. It was a pretty shady thing to try, and it blew up in their faces.
Then, Bevin aggressively confronted RAMPANT corruption in the University of Louisville board. He fired some guys, tried to appoint his onw guys, and again got slapped down. It was the right thing to do, wrong way to do it.
In the end, he was politically inept. And, he didn’t get much help from his party members who, just recently took over the House after 40 years in the wilderness. The R Party people never really liked Bevin anyway. Sound familiar?
Will be interesting to see how the recount goes. There clearly were some irregularities. I highly doubt the final result will change... but, we’ll see.
I was referencing the post. Where there was no actual statistical analysis. Just the totals of the winners. It was the lack of facts to present a misleading outcome using numbers. Actually thought it was kind of funny.
Sorry I do not believe the fake polls.
“...I truly wonder if Trump has plans to at least limit the fraud?...”
I’m sure...He’s no dummy...
Hated by liberals. Hated by schools. But there are significant numbers of otherwise conservative people who are on the public dole and they were brainwashed by the libs into believing that Bevin was taking money out of their pockets. He was in a way because he was reforming public aid. Constantly bashed by papers and tv so as a consequence he doesn't come across as likeable. Trump defeated that by getting out in the public arena and showing his likability.
My point was not questioning Trump’s intellect.
My point was questioning IF Trump is able to implement an effective defense to protect the voting system and have a fair election.
Appreciate the insights.
“...My point was not questioning Trump’s intellect...”
Of course it wasn’t...
I was just stating that I believe he will have (if not already) people really looking hard into voter fraud possibilities all across the nation...
40,000+ teachers in KY.
Three guesses how most voted.
Sure most polls are skewed and used to shape opinion. But when they are this far off and combined with the most unpopular governor in the nation. Bevin was supposed to lose big no matter how you shape it.
And instead of blindly discounting polls, study them and understand their biases. They can be informative.
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