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Zullo:2 top intel people in 2 branches: "open secret" Obama NOT born in US!
Freedom Friday with Garl Gallups ^ | August 17, 2018 | Mike Zullo, Carl Gallups

Posted on 08/18/2018 10:38:48 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

15:50: Aside from there never being a birth certificate at Kapiolani Medical Center...and I will never reveal the sources, however they are top intelligence people in two different branches of intelligence...it has been an open secret that Obama could never satisfy the constitutional requirement of being born on American soil.

Now in our investigation we were not tasked with determining that. We were looking for evidence of a fraudulent document and perhaps the reason behind it, but the mission was never to find where he was or was not born. However, that's the open secret.

Now that's the open secret and you have John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey, Micheal Hayden, all these players that were in control of those entities are now empbroiled in this soft coup to destroy the presidency of the United States.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: birftards; birthers; brennan; carlgallups; fakebirthcertificate; hawaiianmyass; jamesclapper; jamescomey; johnbrennan; kenyanbornmuzzie; michealhayden; mikezullo; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriffarpaio
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To: rx
The requirement is not being born on American soil, Carl and Mikey, but being natural born.
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Then, why, in Obozo’s case do we have all the deception, lies, and subterfuge? Being born an alien and never naturalized is a fraud still being perpetrated on the American people. We know his phony dad was not a citizen and his supposed mother was too young to confer citizenship on a foreign born child. So, what you have is a usurper, an illegal alien, who is still pretending he was a lawful president and now enjoying, at taxpayer expense, all the vestiges of a former president. Obozo was a fictional Communist creation, meant to bring down America, and now, with recent intelligence disclosures, we can better appreciate how he was able to pull off the biggest fraud in the history of America. What really ticks them off is that he wasn't able to close the deal. As the saying goes, when you lie, tell a really big whopper, and tell it repeatedly until it's viewed as the truth. I might add, it helps to have a corrupt law enforcement, intelligence community and MSM repeatedly peddling your big whopper.
61 posted on 08/19/2018 5:16:04 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Fresh Wind

Very very true. DJT was the only candidate in the race with the fortitude and ability to withstand the media cheerleaders and their conniving democrat complicity.


62 posted on 08/19/2018 5:20:58 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: SkyPilot

That is why the total exposure of all Obama’s records as well as the present investigations into the highest level of the previous administration scandals need to be disclosed and concluded with Obama’s impeachment.

Enforcement of the law, with regard to the Obama administration, is essential to our survival as a republic.


63 posted on 08/19/2018 5:24:24 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: DMZFrank
The SCOTUS has never directly ruled on the meaning of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the constitution with regard to POTUS eligibility

And you can bet they never will.

64 posted on 08/19/2018 5:26:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Boomer
One thing is for sure; either Congress or the Supreme Court needs to definitively define what it means to be a natural born citizen for the purpose of being qualified to run for the Presidency

What do you think the chances of that happening are?

65 posted on 08/19/2018 5:30:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: arthurus
Not being born on American soil is ipso facto not being natural born in the USA

My son, a retired Navy Captain was stationed in Germany, serving his Country, when my grandson was born {his mother is/was an American born citizen}.

Do you mean to say that my grandson, the son of a career Naval Officer, and American mother is not eligible to become the President of the USA?

66 posted on 08/19/2018 5:35:57 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: mabarker1

That is quite the post.

I believe it because after all...Who would make such stuff up?

No evidence though I would guess.

Too bad, because getting those 2 Witches of of the bench could change the world.


67 posted on 08/19/2018 5:41:57 AM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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To: Paine in the Neck

At the time that those words were written. The process of ‘naturalization’ had not yet been constructed.

Of course you know that, but I do not think that you mentioned it.


68 posted on 08/19/2018 5:46:50 AM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Once Lyin’ Ted blamed the Chicago riot on Trump he was
dead to all patriotic Americans, natural born or otherwise.


69 posted on 08/19/2018 5:55:06 AM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Were the missing Barry Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham passport and immigration records ever located?


70 posted on 08/19/2018 5:55:15 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("itYou can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: USS Alaska
Yes. My brother was born in Türkıye. He could never be President. My grandson was born in Peru. A nephew and a niece were born in Korea. Ditto that.

Obama was not eligible on several terms. He was probably foreign born while his mother was not old enough to confer automatic citizenship upon him so he was likely not even a citizen. As a noncitizen he did not have a passport and was never naturalized nor did he go through Immigration so he would be an illegal. He IS a citizen of the British Empire.

In the future when Hussein's lack of citizenship etc is part of history it will be the rationale for allowing anyone on earth who has attained the age of 35 to be elected President of the United States. The thing was done and accepted.

71 posted on 08/19/2018 5:56:21 AM PDT by arthurus (ag)
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To: SkyPilot

If that’s true about Kagan and Sotomayor, and given Trump’s history with the Birther issue, we should be confident he’s not leaving any stones unturned. After RBG passes, imagine an 8-1 advantage on SCOTUS (if we assume Roberts is then freed up).


72 posted on 08/19/2018 5:57:50 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Radix
Of course, one needs to be naturalized because one is not natural born. They are not the same thing.
73 posted on 08/19/2018 6:02:36 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; erkelly

Meghan Markle is a US Citizen but she is going through a long process of gaining UK Citizenship which does not make exceptions for Royals.

As she becomes a UK Citizen, she will give up US citizenship presumably for tax purposes.

For the purposes of argument, if she retained US citizenship, her child would be a UK Citizen at the moment of birth whereas conferred US Citizenship only if she registered the child at a US Embassy immediately, else the child might need to undergo naturalization which is far-fetched in the context.

In any case, if the child was conferred US Citizenship as natural, not naturalized, the child would need to reside WITHIN the United States for 14 years. The Constitution provides no detail on how the 14-year requirement is to be satisfied, whether in one continuous stretch or broken into periods that add to 14.

The ‘Natural Born’ phrase stemmed from English Common law and was interpreted in Early American history as born to an American father because women were citizens by virtue of their marriage to a US Citizen husband. For example, many American males married tribal native Americans because white women were scarce and not adapted to harsh conditions of the Wilderness. Their children were considered ‘Natural-Born’.

In this Early American era, the contention in determining ‘Natural-Born’ that both parents had to be US Citizens was moot because the wife would automatically be a citizen by marriage even without naturalization. The process of naturalization for such wives of American citizens came later.

The history of ‘Natural-Born’ with respect to the US Constitution is essential in understanding how to judge legal ambiguity in terms and phrases. It was John Jay that influenced General George Washington to require ‘Natural-Born’ in the US Constitution for purposes of assuring LOYALTY and ALLEGIANCE to the United States, two distinct character traits that were of huge importance in the Revolutionary times of the Founders. Those traits are still just as important today but in the time of the Founding, there was a civil tension between patriots and loyalists, the requirement was essential to ensure a British loyalist would never be Commander-in-Chief of American military forces.

Back to the case of Meghan Markle, her child could be President of the United States only if the Constitution was satisfied as to ‘Natural-Born’ and 14 years of residency INSIDE the US. But then the American electorate would need to be convinced the Markle child had first and foremost the interests of Americans in mind. Although there can be a faulty foundation of this latter statement given today’s liar media. If it were to happen, I would hope there would be serious challenges in court and in public discussions about whether such a candidacy was a good idea or not.

All of this discussion of Meghan Markle’s child becoming President of the US is far-fetched.


74 posted on 08/19/2018 6:04:38 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
"Tables, charts, graphs, matrixes make it easier to see chronological items in a logical format."

At the military police officer advanced course over 20 years ago, one of our instructors was an old, crusty warrant officer CID agent who had four basic rules of investigation that have served me well to this day:

1. Look for patterns where there should not be any.
2. Look for disruptions to patterns where there shouldn't be.
3. Timeline, timeline, timeline.
4. Cui bono?

75 posted on 08/19/2018 6:05:24 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
"airplane manifest....National Aechives"

Back in '08, I found TWA's records were at the library of the University of Florida/Miami.

I told the librarian by email and phone that I was tracking Malcolm X's travels.

77 posted on 08/19/2018 6:07:16 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: arthurus
"Not being born on American soil is ipso facto not being natural born in the USA."

While that much or little may be true, it's not equivalent to the Constitutional requirement, which is the context of what Carl and Mikey said.

78 posted on 08/19/2018 6:07:59 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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