[jmacusa]

Robert E. Lee was a treasonous bastard who took up arms against the duly elected government of The United States and against the flag of The United States in order to help preserve an economic system based on the use of slave labor. He, along with Jefferson Davis are directly responsible for the deaths of some 700,000 Americans.

[Texas Mulerider]

Robert E. Lee was a treasonous bastard who took up arms against the duly elected government of The United States and against the flag of The United States in order to help preserve an economic system based on the use of slave labor. He, along with Jefferson Davis are directly responsible for the deaths of some 700,000 Americans.

Yawn.

[Lagmeister]

Lee was offered command of the union army but declined because of his loyalty to Virginia. Remember, lest we forget like the uneducated left, we are the United States of America (emphasis United States). Virtually the entire confederate army never owned a slave. They were just average folk fighting for their state.

It was a sad, costly time of our history. And... a huge number of deaths were the direct result of Grant's complete disregard for casualties in his strategy of 'human waves' against fortified positions.

[outofsalt]

Virginia, which Lee considered his home and country, along with the upper States of the South, did not secede until President Lincoln began preparations to invade those lower Southern States.
Those lower States wanted freedom from the high tariffs the North charged for raw materials. The lower states did not invade the North but tried to expel the Federalist forces.

Slavery ended peacefully in many other countries and if the North had simply existed as a, “safe place” for slaves to flee to it would have ended that particular institution without the loss of 750,000 Americans. The dissolution of the Union would have led to the peaceful dissolution of slavery as the slaves would have had a place of refuge.

The North uses the abolitionist cause as a red herring to justify it’s imposition on the South and attacked in order to control their economic resources. The war was not fought to free slaves as the Northern historians have written. That was used to force federal power over federalist ideals. https://www.thegreatfiction.com/2015/01/17/could-slavery-have-ended-without-the-civil-war/

[sailor76]

directly responsible for the deaths of some 700,000 Americans.
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I see, you're actually talking about Lincoln, I agree.

[odawg]

I would debate the issue with you but it is quite obvious that you are too ignorant and blockheaded.

[stormer]

+1

[DiogenesLamp]

You can't accept the fact that two slave owning nations fought a war of independence with the dictator faction winning.

If Opposition to slavery was an issue, Lincoln wouldn't have called for an amendment to make it permanent.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

And how many Treason Trials were there? NOT ONE! Even Jeff Davis wanted a treason trial and was denied it by Salmon P. Chase. Davis even rejected Chase’s offer of pardon demanding a Treason Trial.
Chase was worried Davis would prove secession legal in a court of law.

[Lurker]

“He, along with Jefferson Davis are directly responsible for the deaths of some 700,000 Americans. ”

That would be Lincoln.

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[Enlightened1]

They South was separating from the Union. Now tell me where in the U.S. Constitution does it say you can’t leave the Union?

You need to understand too. The Federal government back then was like the U.N. today and States were like your home country. Gen. Lee was offered command of the Union by President Lincoln, and he said no because his loyalty was to his State which was like a country back then.

At the time Gen Lee was Commandant of West Point.

Again where does it say in the U.S. Constitutio?. This is why the South called it the war of Northern Agression. The war was about economics and not freeing slaves. The slaves being freed was more of an auxiliary issue.