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ROBERT E. LEE: OUR GREATEST GENERAL?

Posted on 06/22/2018 11:46:12 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

That was according to my 8th grade history teacher-retired military. The only one who came close was MacArthur. That brings up the politics of the left. If it is true that Lee was a great General isn't it at least worth acknowledging? This tearing down of statues should stop. Educated persons should acknowledge the truth. It's the left that's the intelligent ones as they would have us believe. I see no conservatives standing up for this truth. The Senate GOP candidate in Virginia should start an 'intellectual' conversation on Lee and let the left react. Don't wait for a baiting reporter to to knee-jerk him into a quick response that they can interpret their own way.


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KEYWORDS: dixie; militaryhistory; robertelee
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To: fungoking

“MacArthur on Eisenhower, “Best clerk I ever had.””

Eisenhower on MacArthur: “I studied drama under him for eight years”


341 posted on 06/22/2018 8:58:55 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: Snickering Hound

Yep. Which is why we can suspect he would have dismissed that diet even if he had known about it.


342 posted on 06/22/2018 9:00:04 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: Lagmeister

Sheer savages, vindictive bastards. A lot of people don’t see that, but anyone who does any research on the era will see it. Well, at least people without an agenda and decent intelligence.


343 posted on 06/22/2018 9:03:40 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Sans-Culotte

You have no concept of state’s rights.


344 posted on 06/22/2018 9:07:16 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: miss marmelstein
Very nice reply, Lamp! You’re a thoughtful person...

Well thank you! I try to look at different perspectives with objectivity, and I sometimes falter because of my own biases, but I try to see beyond just what I have been told. I try to be an independent and objective thinker and sometimes I manage it. :)

I’m one of the few people who consistently blame the British for bringing that effen evil institution to our shores. They take no responsibility for it any more than they do their contributions to Africa, India or the Caribbean. And yet, every day, in their newspapers, they bash us for racism!

If one looks at the History of the British with Objectivity, it soon becomes apparent that the British have been some mean F***ing Bastards for quite a long time. They have done quite evil things in their History, but to be fair, they have also done a lot of good things.

They are shrewd, bold and ruthless when the occasion requires it, and I think they have an inherent mean streak that even the modern British still seem to reflect.

Now personally I like @$$holes because they usually have some personality, and If I was asked to point out some of my favorite @$$holes, I would invariably point to the British.

Simon Cowell, Chef Gordan Ramsey, Hugh Laurie as "House", Len Goodman of "Dancing with the Stars" and Vinnie Jones, to name a few.

But getting back to the British in History, what they did to China was quite horrible, and much of Britain's wealth and empire was the consequence of it. Their role in the Slave trade was also horrible.

Yes, the British are and have been quite the vicious bunch. Good to have on your side in a fight though.

345 posted on 06/22/2018 9:08:37 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: miss marmelstein
"Pelham - you are a treasure as well as a genius."

I tell my friends that all the time. Their rude and churlish responses are surely a primitive form of agreement.

346 posted on 06/22/2018 9:08:57 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: Pelham

You might not want to defend Eisenhower too much. It was widely known he was inept.


347 posted on 06/22/2018 9:10:18 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
So the last flag to fly over legal slavery in the USA was the stars and stripes.

It also flew the longest of the two. It flew for "Four Score and Seven years" of slavery.

348 posted on 06/22/2018 9:11:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

No, the crux of the problem is demand, not supply.

If there were no demand for slaves, there would be no suppliers.

If there was no demand for cocaine, coca would still be nothing more than an obscure plant used by indigenous chewers to mild effect.

Didn’t the Portuguese, French, and Spaniards use their own ships, like the São José, rather than contract all their slave shipping out to Yankees?


349 posted on 06/22/2018 9:20:27 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Pelham
Yep. Which is why we can suspect he would have dismissed that diet even if he had known about it.

Roosevelt wouldn't even consent to a physical examination until he was admitted to Bethesda in Mar 44'

He had been in badly declining health since after traveling the 1000's of miles to and from the Tehran Conference in Nov 43.

He was finally admitted with very high blood pressure, fever and rapid pulse.

Before then all he would consent to was a short chat with a Navy doctor that wouldn't even physically examine him.

Amazing these days considering he was pushed around in a wheelchair everywhere he went.

After that, they did all they could to keep Eleanor away from him because all her nagging would give him a meltdown so their daughter Anna became acting First Lady.

Eleanor tried to go to Yalta in 45'. There was no way they were going to be in a confined space for all that time so his daughter Anna went instead.

350 posted on 06/22/2018 9:23:42 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

That much time with Eleanor would have killed him sooner.

Henry Hyde used to say “A woman made me a conservative. Eleanor Roosevelt.”

There’s a valid reason that Hillary identifies with her.


351 posted on 06/22/2018 9:27:27 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: Snickering Hound

Great little history bit. Love that stuff.

“After the war, Knoxville businessman Charles McClung McGhee (1828–1907) and several other investors formed a syndicate which purchased both the East Tennessee and Georgia Railroad and the East Tennessee and Virginia Railroad. In 1869, the two lines were consolidated to form the East Tennessee, Virginia and Georgia Railroad, with Thomas Calloway as president, and McGhee and Richard T. Wilson as agents. As a nexus between northern financiers and local interests, McGhee was able to obtain for the ETV&G large amounts of capital, and the new company rapidly expanded.[2]”

One aspect of post Civil War that gets little mention is that Yankees bought up everything at rock-bottom prices. Abd had better places to reinvest their profits.
It wasn’t until WW2 that the South recovered from the war.


352 posted on 06/22/2018 9:28:34 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Bulwyf

“You might not want to defend Eisenhower too much. It was widely known he was inept.”

That was certainly a conceit of the mainstream press in the 1950s. Proving that the arrogant stupidity of the MSM is not a recent phenomenon.

Ike played them like the fools that they are, just as Trump does now. Eisenhower not only didn’t care that the press thought him incompetent, he used that to his advantage.

That’s all detailed in Fred Greenstein’s “The Hidden Hand Presidency: Eisenhower as Leader”. I’m convinced that Trump read and absorbed that book long before he decided to run.


353 posted on 06/22/2018 9:36:26 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: Pelham
That much time with Eleanor would have killed him sooner.

Roosevelt had been having an affair with Eleanor's secretary Lucy Mercer but Eleanor discovered their letters.

He was planning on leaving Eleanor for her but his mother said she would disown him if he did and he and Eleanor patched things up...somewhat and she forbid him any contact with her.

Shortly afterward he contracted Polio or whatever disease it was and Eleanor became his very controlling nurse.

It was his daughter Anna that got Lucy and Roosevelt back together after Bethesda she was now widowed and Roosevelt was very relaxed in her company.

It was Lucy that was with Roosevelt in Warm Springs when he died, not Eleanor.

When Eleanor found out what Anna had been doing she blew a gasket.

354 posted on 06/22/2018 9:40:20 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Sherman

https://youtu.be/66vPwTi9nZs?t=10m49s


355 posted on 06/22/2018 9:51:57 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: deks
It dam near was. He signed of on Market Garden That went bloody well. The Hurtgen Forest debacle.
356 posted on 06/22/2018 9:55:39 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Texas Mulerider

Yeah, yawn Reb. He was a son of a bitch.


357 posted on 06/22/2018 9:56:19 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Lurker
Bullshit Reb. The son of a bitch should have had his neck stretched.
358 posted on 06/22/2018 9:57:28 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: mrsmith

“The South could have tied to the NW Terrs with canals”

I don’t think that there are any connecting rivers to follow and you have the Alleghenies to deal with.

The C&O, and George Washington’s earlier Patowmack Canal, went up the Potomac River to Cumberland, Maryland but only dreamt of connecting to the Ohio River at Pittsburgh. I don’t think that ever was practical.


359 posted on 06/22/2018 9:58:35 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

That bastard owes his life to the fact Lincoln wanted the war over and resentment and animosity to the South tamped down. “Let them up easy’’ he told Grant.


360 posted on 06/22/2018 9:59:12 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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