Posted on 12/10/2017 5:08:23 PM PST by Elderberry
Wow, that is something new.
Yes, but after about 300 years.
I don’t care who you are, for him to have formally challenged obama’s missing birth paperwork the way he did, in public, took a Yuge pair!
But...it also tells me that citizen Trump already knew the answer and understood the implications long before making a public statement/challenge about it.
In that light, it’s no surprise the people who attempted to make him pay a price then have also been his main enemies now from the moment he announced his candidacy.
Ah, but now it’s President Donald J. Trump, and he now knows what he knew then, but with even greater detail.
The POTUS, Donald J. Trump, has long demonstrated that he’s not shy about telling the world what it needs to know, at the right time, and generally for maximum impact.
Therefore, I’m looking forward to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help US God, about obama’s BC and the long usurpation of America finally being known and properly adjudicated in public.
This truth will set US free at last, free at last, while the collective’s cognitive dissonance explosion will be a joy to behold.
Best Election Ever!
For reference the Lyle H. Dahling memo which was written in April, 1961 reads - "Subject got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ [Hawaiian for pregnant] and although they were married they do not live together and Miss Dunham is making arrangements with the Salvation Army to give the baby away"
There was a Salvation Army Home for unwed mothers in Honolulu in the 1960s.
The Salvation Army websites says this,
"The Western Territory established its first home in 1887 in Oakland, California. During their peak, there were 10 institutions across the West in Anchorage, Alaska; Boise, Idaho; Denver, Colorado; El Paso, Texas; Honolulu, Hawaii; Los Angeles, California; Oakland, California; Portland, Oregon (White Shield); San Diego, California (Door of Hope); and Spokane, Washington."
A search of Google Books find that 1948's "The Salvation Army Homes and Hospitals for Unmarried Mothers" lists the "The Salvation Army Women's Homes and Hospital" in Honolulu, Oahu T. H. as being founded in 1920.
https://books.google.com/books?id=EPBOAQAAMAAJ&dq=booth+memorial+hospital+honolulu&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Honolulu%2C+Oahu
A Google search for the term "Honolulu Advertiser "Any girl in need of a friend write or call" Salvation Army Booth Memorial Home." results in a number of advertisements from the 1950s and 1960s for the Salvation Army's Booth Memorial Home.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Honolulu+Advertiser+%22Any+girl+in+need+of+a+friend+write+or+call%22+Salvation+Army+Booth+Memorial+Home.&rlz=1C1AFAB_enUS458US463&oq=Honolulu+Advertiser+%22Any+girl+in+need+of+a+friend+write+or+call%22+Salvation+Army+Booth+Memorial+Home.&aqs=chrome..69i57.20078j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
By the 1970s the need for unwed mothers homes decreased and the Salvation Army changed their focus to support for unwed mothers.
A Google Books search finds that in the 1972 book "Community service agencies of Hawaii: a brief guide" there is this passage,
"SALVATION ARMY BOOTH UNWED PARENTS PROGRAMS (Formerly Salvation Army Booth Memorial Home) 3624 Waokanaka Street P. O. Box 88 Honolulu, Hawaii 96810 Telephone 595-6306 Purpose and Function Provides counseling to any pregnant girl and/or her family and other interested persons, as requested; resource and referral services; also residential ..."
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AFAB_enUS458US463&biw=1600&bih=769&tbm=bks&ei=S84uWpn2FITTjAOihKLgDg&q=Hawaii+Honolulu+%22Booth+Memorial+Home%22&oq=Hawaii+Honolulu+%22Booth+Memorial+Home%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...11896.14566.0.15270.2.2.0.0.0.0.83.161.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.cO7qtuocfck
What document did he use to get his driving license ?
That “hand written” document that Abercrombie said was in the HDOH archives ?
I do not believe the Salvation Army home for unwed mothers in Honolulu [the existence of which I was unaware] was still operating in 1961. This is because with all the research that has been done into Obama’s birthplace, it has never been mentioned as a third possibility. The only two HI institutions ever mentioned are the two hospitals.
However, I have put in a request for information with the Salvation Army’s contact person re the operation of the home in Honolulu. The initial reply was that she did not know the exact years of operation of this particular Home, and could not verify that it was or was not still receiving patients in 1961. If additional information becomes available, I will post it on this thread.
Anyone who lived in the Seattle area for 5 years and spent 4 years going to and graduating from Mercer Island High School would know a lot of people in the Seattle area.
The probability that Obama was born in Canada approaches 100%.
A complete conspiracy theory for which there is not one piece of evidence is very different from a probability approaching 100%.
If I have some time (which might not happen this week), I will take up your other points.
‘Anyone who lived in the Seattle area for 5 years and spent 4 years going to and graduating from Mercer Island High School would know a lot of people in the Seattle area.’
SA knew no one in Seattle. She visited two Mercer Island friends once—in ~the third week of August—and then didn’t see them again. In Seattle she enlisted a complete stranger to babysit Little Barry so that she could attend her classes. SA paid the babysitter.
Anybody can say anything. That doesn’t make it true. If SA had friends in Seattle, why didn’t she go to them first as babysiiters?
As to the Canadian birth having no evidence. Conveniently, you skipped over all the evidence. You said you’d address it later if you have time. I look forward to it. Though if all you’re going to offer is unsupported opinions, your ‘explanations,’ will be worthless.
“I do not believe the Salvation Army home for unwed mothers in Honolulu [the existence of which I was unaware] was still operating in 1961.”
The Honolulu Advertiser has ads for “ANY girl In need of a friend, write or call Supt. Salvation Army Booth Memorial Home 1002 20th Ave. Ph. 73-275” in the February 2, 1962 and the April 20, 1962 editions.
“The only two HI institutions ever mentioned are the two hospitals.”
Why does no one mention the Kaiser Foundation Hospital where Bruce Henderson was born in August, 1961 or the Kuakini Hospital where James Gravely was born in June, 1961?
Obama himself has only mentioned two hospitals as his place of birth, which may be why the others are overlooked. Originally Obama claimed to have been born at Queen’s, and only later switched to Kapiolani.
‘A United Press International report from Nov. 4 states:
“Obama described his birth at Queen’s Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity from Nyanza Province in Kenya, as an ‘all-America’ story transcending orthodox racial stereotypes and experience.”’
‘A November 2004 report from the Rainbow Edition News Letter, published by the Education Laboratory School in Hawaii, noted in its lead sentence:
“Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961 at the Queen’s Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii.”’
‘Adding a twist to the dispute is a separate claim on the MyBarackObama.com campaign website that lists a genealogy for Obama citing his birthplace as Queen’s Medical Center.
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‘The site documents Obama’s lineage back to his great-great-great grandparents, who lived in the mid-1800s.
It states: “Barack Hussein OBAMA was born on 4 August 1961 at the Queen’s Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein OBAMA, Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann DUNHAM of Wichita, Kansas.”’
‘William Addams Reitwiesner, genealogist at the Library of Congress, first listed the birth location at Queen’s.’
‘Kenya’s East African Standard, in an Aug. 24, 2006, article titled “From Young ‘Barry’ to Top American Senator,” said of Obama: “The Harvard Law School and Columbia University graduate was born at the Queen’s Medical Centre in Honolulu in Hawaii, where his parents were studying at the East-West Centre of the University of Hawaii in Manoa.”’
Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2009/07/103306/#WAsdw7qM0oo0uzAX.99
I have noticed this about Obots: they state their speculations as fact. Stanley Ann’s Mercer Island friends have given interviews and described their visits [one time each, in ‘61] with SA. Not a single friend from Seattle has uttered a peep. These friends exist in your mind only—i.e.: imaginary friends.
When Stanley Ann magically appeared in Seattle, she visited the two aforementioned friends in Mercer Island. But when the semester started, she engaged a total stranger to babysit Little Barry. So much for the ‘Seattle friends,’.
What document did he use to get his driving license ?
Says the retread zotted Obot troll that ran like a terrified rabbit from a polite and immanently reasonable question re Stanley Ann’s first post-birth appearance.
According to Susan Blake the appearance was in late August, 1961.
“She left Honolulu just as soon she had clearance from her doctor to travel with her new baby. He was just 3 weeks old. She had sent a postcard that she would be in town, and was staying with a friend of her mother’s.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20081203083555/http://www.christianfaithandreason.com:80/obama6.html
I would believe this if any actual witness (beyond a fabricated BC, which is not an actual ‘witness,’) placed SA in HI at any time subsequent to the ‘60 fall semester and subsequent to the birth. There are ample witnesses to SA’s sudden appearance in Seattle. Why none for ~10 months in HI?
Also, Blake saying it’s true doesn’t make it true. Did the airlines in ‘61 allow <1 mo old babies to fly? I have yet to see a dispositive answer to this question.
Another interesting point. Stanley Ann claimed to her Mercer Island friends that she was in love with Obama Senior. Then why flee HI? It was arduous and extremely expensive. What is the going Obot explanation for this 2,683 mile trek?
“Why none for ~10 months in HI?”
Except of course for the February, 1961 wedding on Maui per the memo by Lyle H. Dahling.
As for anyone else - who knows maybe people were interviewed and the reporters decided it wasn’t interesting enough to include in their stories. Or maybe they weren’t asked about that time period. Or maybe they had died by 2008 when reporters came a knocking Or mayber no one tracked them down.
“Did the airlines in ‘61 allow <1 mo old babies to fly?”
She would have had a note from her doctor.
‘Except of course for the February, 1961 wedding on Maui per the memo by Lyle H. Dahling.’
Who witnessed that wedding? Obama/Ayers treated it like the plague in Dreams. It’s a bizarrely weird description—consider rereading it sometime. It’s almost as if they are trying to tell us it never happened.
Forget reporters. It’s the biographers who worked so hard to place Stanley Ann in HI during her pregnancy. The idea that they found witnesses and ignored them is absurd. David Maraniss’ inability to find a single person who placed SA in HI during that timeframe was seen as support for birtherism—I kid you not. In the interview in which he was asked about birthers, can you really with a straight face claim he found witnesses but simply opted not to mention them?
‘Or maybe they had died by 2008 when reporters came a knocking’
Is HI supposedly bad for people’s health? Plenty of people remember SA from both her Mercer Island days and from her Seattle hiatus. Why are WA State people so much longer lived than HI people?
You do not know that airlines in ‘61 allowed newborns to fly with a dr’s note. It is pure speculation. Besides, what was the emergency/urgency? SA claimed to be in love with her ‘husbsnd.’ Why the mad, costly flight to get away from him?
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