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Is this .25 ACP Mouse Gun enough for Personal Defense?
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 12/8/2017 | J Hines

Posted on 12/08/2017 5:41:10 AM PST by w1n1

These days most concealed carriers refer to smaller handguns less than a .45 caliber as “mouse guns.” We’re talking about the Browning .25 ACP.
Yes, its is considered an antique self-defense gun from the early 20th century, some would say it was a fad that never faded.

Most people that do have these .25’s are collectors and a small minority that actually have this as a backup.(ankle or throwaway guns) But is it a reliable self-defense gun?

Nowadays thanks to smart gun folks have put this caliber to the test against gel. The ideal penetration is “twelve inches” according to FBI protocol.
Here’s Youtuber mark3smle tackling this question of whether or not the .25 ACP is reliable for self-defense.

Yes this little piece is the ideal size for concealed and lightweight, but it may not be the caliber to have to stop someone in its track. Probably best as a last resort. See the full footage testing of this .25 ACP for personal defense video here. Anyone carrying a mouse gun?


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KEYWORDS: banglist; browning25acp
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1 posted on 12/08/2017 5:41:11 AM PST by w1n1
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To: w1n1

The best gun is the one you carry. Regardless of caliber. Reagan was shot with a .22


2 posted on 12/08/2017 5:44:53 AM PST by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: w1n1
Anyone carrying a mouse gun?

No, I carry a rat gun.

.380 with ARX rounds.

Can I shoot you with it?

3 posted on 12/08/2017 5:45:54 AM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: w1n1

I won’t carry anything lighter than the 9mm. Even that calibre is very dependent on bullet placement.


4 posted on 12/08/2017 5:47:48 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or ywour own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: Billyv

Reagan was shot with a .22


Yes, and it was a cheap RG-14. Six shots in 1.7 seconds.

Four people down, including President Reagan.


5 posted on 12/08/2017 5:50:08 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: w1n1

I finished watching “Godless” from Neflix the other night. A great quote from the character, Frank Griffin..”Aint nothing scarier than a man with a gun. And aint nothing more helpless than a man without one”. :)


6 posted on 12/08/2017 5:50:16 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Billyv

My neighbor killed her husband with one shot from a .22.


7 posted on 12/08/2017 5:50:51 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Billyv

A .22 out of the same length barrel as a .25 is about the same power.

But the .25 is more reliable because it is center-fire.


8 posted on 12/08/2017 5:51:31 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: momtothree

This is off topic but is Godless worth watching? The trailer looked like it was about some feminist chicks in the old west. I have little interest in the “tough girl” genre.

I will watch nearly anything set in history. But no chick flicks.


9 posted on 12/08/2017 5:58:24 AM PST by submarinerswife (Allahu FUBAR)
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To: w1n1
barely adequate for self defense...but better than using your hands. FWIW....25ACP was used by the most prolific official executioner and mass murderer Vasily Blokhin

Vasily Blokhin

German Walther Model 2 .25 ACP

Blokhin would stand waiting behind the door in his executioner garb: a leather butcher's apron, leather hat, and shoulder-length leather gloves. Then, without a hearing, the reading of a sentence or any other formalities, each prisoner was brought in and restrained by guards while Blokhin shot him once in the base of the skull with a German Walther Model 2 .25 ACP pistol. He had brought a briefcase full of his own Walther pistols, since he did not trust the reliability of the standard-issue Soviet TT-30 for the frequent, heavy use he intended. The use of a German pocket pistol, which was commonly carried by German police and intelligence agents, also provided plausible deniability of the executions if the bodies were discovered later.

10 posted on 12/08/2017 6:01:38 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: submarinerswife

My three daughters and I have had to discuss the “tough girl” genre.

It usually ends up with watching on Youtube a 300 lb man hit something and a 100 lb woman (or man) hit something.

Weight has a quality, as does muscle mass.

And I sure as anything not going to go up against a 300 lb man without a gun. And hopefully neither are my daughters.


11 posted on 12/08/2017 6:03:20 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: w1n1

I never had to defend myself from a mouse. I had 458 magnum to pick wild raspberries. A boot works on mice.


12 posted on 12/08/2017 6:03:27 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: w1n1

A little’s a lot if it’s all you’ve got.


13 posted on 12/08/2017 6:04:15 AM PST by Augie
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To: Spok
I won’t carry anything lighter than the 9mm

I used to carry a Berra Thunder .380 CC but my grip caused it to jam all the time. I'm not a fan of revolvers so my Darlin Husband bought me a Walther P99 with a green Crimson Trace. It fits my hands better and it has never jammed.

I am a big fan of a 9mm now. More stopping power.

14 posted on 12/08/2017 6:06:01 AM PST by submarinerswife (Allahu FUBAR)
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To: submarinerswife

Oops I meant BERSA.


15 posted on 12/08/2017 6:06:27 AM PST by submarinerswife (Allahu FUBAR)
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To: w1n1

It’s better than nothing but if you ever find yourself in an actual defensive gun use situation, you’ll probably be wishing you had brought more gun and more bullets. That little .25 might make an OK BUG but it’s not really ideal for that either IMO.


16 posted on 12/08/2017 6:07:36 AM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: OldSmaj

I carry a Sig .380 that is always in my front pocket which, in my opinion, is key. Is the firearm small enough and concealable enough to always be carried? In Most instances of CCW being utilized showing the gun will diffuse the situation. It’s not always shoot out at the OK corral. I have a Bauer knockoff of the Browning .25 that I inherited from a great uncle. I have tried to convince my wife to get her CCW and at least carry the Bauer. I’d feel much safer if she would comply.


17 posted on 12/08/2017 6:07:45 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: w1n1

It is better than nothing.

It is surprising how many people think differently.


18 posted on 12/08/2017 6:09:20 AM PST by yarddog
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To: Spok

Placement of the round you bet.

I took down a huge sow with a .223
Put in her ear. Dead before she hit the ground.

I keep a .380 in my truck and a Taurus Judge (.45/410) in the house.


19 posted on 12/08/2017 6:09:29 AM PST by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: w1n1

Yes. The issue is hitting the target.


20 posted on 12/08/2017 6:12:14 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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