Posted on 09/22/2017 5:45:03 AM PDT by w1n1
Edited on 09/22/2017 7:38:38 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Gun safety is no laughing matter. These shooters forgot that (or never learned in the first place) and paid a heavy price.
Doing Frankenstein things with that .44 Magnum loaded with hollow points?
Once again, Iron feet do not stop bullets.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanshootingjournal.com ...
Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! ....
He took us out into a field,had us gather around in a semi circle as he placed an ammo can on a tree stump and fired an M-14 at it.
Clean through both sides it went...an image that stays with me to this day.
If those pictures don’t make the point, nothing will.
I understand the RIGHT TO CARRY ... however I'm concerned about having the RIGHT TO CARRY with NO TRAINING. An 82 year old lady at the end of our block just bought a new 45 cal revolver. She can't drive because of the sight test, but she can carry a 45? We need to put some sanity into this discussion.
I agree, when i was growing up My dad drilled safety into us. Just as I did with my son now... but I know a lot dont ever get that...they need to.
I, too, am concerned about untrained individuals.
But driving is a privilege and your gun rights are just that. RIGHTS.
Placing training requirements on them is no different than Jim Crow laws that required reading tests in order to vote. They can and WILL be used against the populace, as some states have clearly shown.
For example, a friend used her Oklahoma permitting process as an example in a business training seminar. She diagrammed the process flow, complete with paperwork, fees and training requirements.
At the end of it, I commented, “That’s not a permit process. That’s a denial process.”
The sane thing would be to not break in to the lil old ladies house.
Conducting Guard Mount for oncoming 2nd Shift, MP, Fort Rucker, AL.
As CPT King moved in front of PVT Myxzyplk, he chose not to inspect his .45 service weapon.
As CPT King faced and continued on to the next man, I noticed the magazine was in the weapon that PVT Myxzplk held in the inspection position.
The slow motion began...as I started to grab his hand, missed it, he dropped the weapon to his side and pulled the trigger.
CPT King was so startled he fell to the ground and covered.
(He was a VERY recent returnee from VN)
I checked myself, found no holes, looked to CPT King, saw no damage, then looked to PVT Myxzyplk, looked from his face to his foot...and saw the hole in the top of the boot, with little spurts of blood.
PVT Myxzplk, who was black, turned white, and fainted, still holding the .45.
When he hit the ground, he pulled the trigger again...to this day, we do not know where THAT round ended up.
The weapon stovepiped, probably because of his loose hold on it by then, and I realized it was safed.
I grabbed it, threw it about 6 feet away and then started to check out PVT Myxzplk.
By the time an ambulance arrived, we had his boot off, the bleeding controlled and wrapped in a sterile cover from a patrol car kit.
His foot looked exactly like that.
The forensics guy from CID later told me that even though it was FMJ ball, it probably hit the concrete we were on and immediately re-entered the foot, causing the damage we saw...which, again, looked exactly like that picture.
Amazingly, PVT Myxzplk recovered, was never prosecuted and went on to a sterling 22 year career, retiring as one of the best 1SG's I have served with.
He retired with a 30% disability, for hearing loss, nothing to do with the hole in his foot.
To my knowledge, he never complained about it.
Shortly before his death in 2005, he told me that he thought of that every day of his life...his greatest concern being that he had shot ME, and not himself...and that when he had looked down at his foot, he thought it was MY blood and not his.
I think of him every day, just about. Helluva good man.
Just goes to show.
Informal research by me over the course of my career revealed that Guard Mount shootings had occurred with some regularity between the late '50's up until procedure was stopped in the late '70's.
Guard mount is still conducted in some places, but without weapons inspections of that type.
I am with you in theory. In practice, bureaucrats will do more harm by abusing training rules than will the occasional untrained gun owner with his or her gun.
I cannot tell you how many firearms I have owned or rounds that I have fired since I received my first firearm at age 9. I can tell you, however, that every firearm is aways loaded. I don’t care if I just disassembled it and it is on the workbench in front of me. It is still loaded. I have never had a firearm accidental discharge or a single round go where it was not intended. Always loaded. Do the same and you will keep yourself and those around you safe. Please.
bkmk for later read
Absolutely NO INFINGEMENT.
It’s the constitution. Hopefully stupidity will only hurt the stupid.
You can prosecute someone who waves a gun in your face. That is not infringement. That’s a threat whether understood by the perp or not.
I'm always leary of the "but" in statements about the Constitution....
...and, screen names like yours.
Images not for those with weak stomachs.
Just what you need after breakfast. But seriously thanks for the safety reminders.
In this same vein, there’s a video on youtube (it’s been all over the net) of the DEA agent who shoots himself in the foot while giving a gun safety lecture to a middle school class.
I took a firearms safety course once with a man who told the following story. He had just bought a new 9mm pistol and loaded it with Glaser Safety Plugs. Later, he unloaded the weapon and went to watch TV with it. As he sat in the chair clicking the pistol, it went off. He saw it was pointed at his foot, and saw a small hole in the top of his shoe but he felt nothing and wondered if somehow it missed him. Then, he saw blood pouring out from underneath his shoe, but still he felt nothing. The pain came later, and after a dozen surgeries he could walk on that foot again.
Must have been a Glock.
Kidding aside, it seems that most "accidental" discharges of this nature tend to be momentarily unnoticed.
I guess the brain-to-foot-to-brain distance is such that it just doesn't register right off.
I saw a man drive a jackhammer bit through his foot and walk off...thinking it had missed him, when they took his shoe off, it had taken off three toes.
He said he never felt a thing.
So why is it...at two o'clock in the morning, I kick the vanity chair leg on my way to the bathroom and it makes me hop on one leg for 30 minutes and curse a blue streak?
Geez, had to stop about halfway through.
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