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Person Strikes Car Before Hitting Gas: Did Charlottesville driver panic?
Youtube ^ | Aug 14, 2017 | Philosophy Workout

Posted on 08/18/2017 2:49:02 PM PDT by Sopater

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Person slaps car, a woman becomes deceased

Same old, same old

61 posted on 08/18/2017 6:17:03 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Winter is coming)
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To: Yardstick

She was the last to hop on the car and it seemed to me an uncoordinated jump. Then she just hung on to the spoiler and got smash by the truck as they went by. If this ever goes to trial it will rival OJ.


62 posted on 08/18/2017 7:10:27 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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I don’t mean athletic as in coordinated, I mean athletic as in slim. 4chan has ID’d her as a curvier lady further forward in the crowd. What proves to you that the person who jumped on the trunk and got smushed between the truck is her?


63 posted on 08/18/2017 7:43:04 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

At this point it is really hard to know. It will take a lot of work and interviews to identify the individuals in the pictures. Given the politics of it, this will be debated for another 50 years.


64 posted on 08/18/2017 7:56:05 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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I don’t know which video it was that I watched over and over, but I think the woman who perished was thrown over the middle car somehow. In slo-mo it looked like she was on the trunk of the middle car when she was propelled forward from the crash. She hit the hood of the middle car and fell down. Yes, she was curvy vs an athletic build.


65 posted on 08/18/2017 8:08:21 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

Yes, my impression is that the fatality was the woman you describe. She was hit by the middle vehicle rather than the Dodge coupe.

And I will add that there is a strange lack of detail in the overall reporting. It seems like we’re forced to speculate about things that would be basic in normal reporting.


66 posted on 08/18/2017 9:14:36 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: MrShoop

“Defending, or equivocating about the nazi racist murdering driver is what allows the story to stay in the news. It is self defeating.”

The “nazi racist murdering driver” will get a trial, more than likely. It’s entirely reasonable to look at available evidence and comment on it. If you are afraid, stay off the thread - then nobody will claim you are by extension a “nazi” like they are going to do anyway to anyone who admits voting for Trump.

I’m willing to let the evidence come in as it will - and discuss it - why aren’t you?

For the media narrative to be effective, people like you have to accept without question that this guy got in his car intending to kill innocent bystanders.

It is certainly a possibility - but absent a full confession from him, it isn’t the only possibility, is it?

It doesn’t matter if the guy was a “nazi” what matters is what he did and why he did it. The media wants to skip that step (and already has fairly successfully) and has already jumped, as you have, to “you must be a nazi too” if you want to see more evidence.


67 posted on 08/18/2017 9:37:15 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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"I wonder, if he was really trying to kill people, as has been asserted, why didn’t he just drive on to the sidewalk where there were tons more people? He could have killed or injure many more if he had just aimed for them a bit better. So why didn’t he?"

Just playing devils advocate. What was visible to him, directly in front of him, was a street filled with people. He couldn't know there was the white car just beyond them, obscured by them. If the white car and the van had not been there, stopped by the crowd, who knows how far he'd have driven through that crowd of people.

68 posted on 08/18/2017 10:26:34 PM PDT by HandyDandy
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To: RFEngineer
"For the media narrative to be effective, people like you have to accept without question that this guy got in his car intending to kill innocent bystanders."

Wrong, very wrong. For the media narrative to work, all they need to do is show he is a Nazi, and he is so case closed. "He was a scared Nazi who was trying to protect his car, so he ran over a bunch of people who happened to be counter protesting his group" is a stupid counter narrative, this is a stupid thread, and like to call out stupidity, so that's why I'm posting.

69 posted on 08/18/2017 10:53:56 PM PDT by Wayne07
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Sure, but people were mostly moving out of the way when he came onto the street. Maybe he braked when he saw so many people in front of him not moving out of the way, and by braking was trying to hurt as few as possible. Like you said, he couldn’t see the white car in front of him because of the people surrounding the car and the van.

If he was there to kill people he disagreed with, why didn’t he pull back into forward after reverse, and ram into them again?


70 posted on 08/19/2017 5:51:03 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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Ah. You think folks are trying to create a counter narrative. I don’t see it. A girl is dead. A guy in a car killed her.

That’s really all that we can say. Motive, intent, and desire will all be part of evidence to be presented. To the extent that is available, it’s a worthy discussion.

I dont think it’s “stupid”. I’m not trying to turn this into a political game like you are.

I want the facts out there and the guilty charged appropriately and the sentence if convicted to reflect the crime.

You are worried about the politics and appearances not the people and lives involved.

So to you, that requires agreeing with the media narrative that is provided to you by them.

I think most folks here are interested in truth, not the hysteria.

That’s why you think it’s stupid.


71 posted on 08/19/2017 6:58:34 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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There has been very little coming out about the driver.

There were conflicting stories that he was actually one of them (antifa) and when they started smashing his car, he panicked.

That would be very different than being a nazi racist murderer, if true, now wouldn’t it?

Hope you are never on a jury...


72 posted on 08/21/2017 9:06:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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The driver has been shown to be one of the Antifa.

Give the A$$ kissing a rest!
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73 posted on 08/21/2017 9:11:45 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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You’re fabricating a narrative of your own.

Liar is the applicable term.
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74 posted on 08/21/2017 9:18:55 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Isn't this guy an example of someone creating a false counter narrative, either through deep delusion, stupidity, or because he is a racist trying to cover for a racist?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3578632/posts?page=55#55

75 posted on 08/21/2017 10:04:58 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop

Maybe, but you are being much more of a dick about it which is why I responded to you.

The evidence will eventually be put in one pile and presented.

It’s clear now to anyone paying attention, whatever narrative you wish to choose, that violence was on every side in Cville.

So the ‘you’re a “nazi sympathizer” if you don’t agree with me’ schtick is a bit threadbare. But to each his own.


76 posted on 08/21/2017 12:00:23 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: MrShoop

Maybe, but you are being much more of a dick about it which is why I responded to you.

The evidence will eventually be put in one pile and presented.

It’s clear now to anyone paying attention, whatever narrative you wish to choose, that violence was on every side in Cville.

So the ‘you’re a “nazi sympathizer” if you don’t agree with me’ schtick is a bit threadbare. But to each his own.


77 posted on 08/21/2017 12:03:25 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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