Posted on 08/18/2017 2:49:02 PM PDT by Sopater
Same old, same old
She was the last to hop on the car and it seemed to me an uncoordinated jump. Then she just hung on to the spoiler and got smash by the truck as they went by. If this ever goes to trial it will rival OJ.
I don’t mean athletic as in coordinated, I mean athletic as in slim. 4chan has ID’d her as a curvier lady further forward in the crowd. What proves to you that the person who jumped on the trunk and got smushed between the truck is her?
At this point it is really hard to know. It will take a lot of work and interviews to identify the individuals in the pictures. Given the politics of it, this will be debated for another 50 years.
I don’t know which video it was that I watched over and over, but I think the woman who perished was thrown over the middle car somehow. In slo-mo it looked like she was on the trunk of the middle car when she was propelled forward from the crash. She hit the hood of the middle car and fell down. Yes, she was curvy vs an athletic build.
Yes, my impression is that the fatality was the woman you describe. She was hit by the middle vehicle rather than the Dodge coupe.
And I will add that there is a strange lack of detail in the overall reporting. It seems like we’re forced to speculate about things that would be basic in normal reporting.
“Defending, or equivocating about the nazi racist murdering driver is what allows the story to stay in the news. It is self defeating.”
The “nazi racist murdering driver” will get a trial, more than likely. It’s entirely reasonable to look at available evidence and comment on it. If you are afraid, stay off the thread - then nobody will claim you are by extension a “nazi” like they are going to do anyway to anyone who admits voting for Trump.
I’m willing to let the evidence come in as it will - and discuss it - why aren’t you?
For the media narrative to be effective, people like you have to accept without question that this guy got in his car intending to kill innocent bystanders.
It is certainly a possibility - but absent a full confession from him, it isn’t the only possibility, is it?
It doesn’t matter if the guy was a “nazi” what matters is what he did and why he did it. The media wants to skip that step (and already has fairly successfully) and has already jumped, as you have, to “you must be a nazi too” if you want to see more evidence.
Just playing devils advocate. What was visible to him, directly in front of him, was a street filled with people. He couldn't know there was the white car just beyond them, obscured by them. If the white car and the van had not been there, stopped by the crowd, who knows how far he'd have driven through that crowd of people.
Wrong, very wrong. For the media narrative to work, all they need to do is show he is a Nazi, and he is so case closed. "He was a scared Nazi who was trying to protect his car, so he ran over a bunch of people who happened to be counter protesting his group" is a stupid counter narrative, this is a stupid thread, and like to call out stupidity, so that's why I'm posting.
Sure, but people were mostly moving out of the way when he came onto the street. Maybe he braked when he saw so many people in front of him not moving out of the way, and by braking was trying to hurt as few as possible. Like you said, he couldn’t see the white car in front of him because of the people surrounding the car and the van.
If he was there to kill people he disagreed with, why didn’t he pull back into forward after reverse, and ram into them again?
Ah. You think folks are trying to create a counter narrative. I don’t see it. A girl is dead. A guy in a car killed her.
That’s really all that we can say. Motive, intent, and desire will all be part of evidence to be presented. To the extent that is available, it’s a worthy discussion.
I dont think it’s “stupid”. I’m not trying to turn this into a political game like you are.
I want the facts out there and the guilty charged appropriately and the sentence if convicted to reflect the crime.
You are worried about the politics and appearances not the people and lives involved.
So to you, that requires agreeing with the media narrative that is provided to you by them.
I think most folks here are interested in truth, not the hysteria.
That’s why you think it’s stupid.
There has been very little coming out about the driver.
There were conflicting stories that he was actually one of them (antifa) and when they started smashing his car, he panicked.
That would be very different than being a nazi racist murderer, if true, now wouldn’t it?
Hope you are never on a jury...
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The driver has been shown to be one of the Antifa.
Give the A$$ kissing a rest!
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You’re fabricating a narrative of your own.
Liar is the applicable term.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3578632/posts?page=55#55
Maybe, but you are being much more of a dick about it which is why I responded to you.
The evidence will eventually be put in one pile and presented.
It’s clear now to anyone paying attention, whatever narrative you wish to choose, that violence was on every side in Cville.
So the ‘you’re a “nazi sympathizer” if you don’t agree with me’ schtick is a bit threadbare. But to each his own.
Maybe, but you are being much more of a dick about it which is why I responded to you.
The evidence will eventually be put in one pile and presented.
It’s clear now to anyone paying attention, whatever narrative you wish to choose, that violence was on every side in Cville.
So the ‘you’re a “nazi sympathizer” if you don’t agree with me’ schtick is a bit threadbare. But to each his own.
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