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Winchester Malfunction Recall – Do you remember?
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 8/17/2017 | S Floyd

Posted on 08/17/2017 9:19:28 AM PDT by w1n1

Gun safety needs to be practiced at all times while around guns and this shotgun malfunction shows why.

Shooting accidents are one of the worst things that can occur while on the gun range or in the field. Simply relying on the safety mechanisms present on firearms is not enough.

The hunter in this video uses a shotgun malfunction on his new Winchester pump-action 12GA to prove that point in shocking fashion.

Winchester announced a recall on certain models of their pump-action shotguns due to this malfunction. The video should serve as a serious reminder to all hunters and shooters that guns can be deadly or cause serious harm when you least expect it. See the full Winchester malfunction video here.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; winchestershotgun

1 posted on 08/17/2017 9:19:28 AM PDT by w1n1
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To: w1n1

Yep, gotta take my Browning 30-06 bolt action into the smithy.

It fired when I moved the safety.
Fortunately I was aimed down range at the time.

I’ve seen references to a recall, but I’d rather have the local smith fix it than mess with the shipping and the wait.


2 posted on 08/17/2017 9:26:01 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: w1n1

Two gun recalls in two days. Yesterday it was Sig Sauer. What is going on?


3 posted on 08/17/2017 9:40:42 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: w1n1

Just as the guy in the video says, always follow the safety rules.

I was firing a flintlock rifle at the range when the range officer called for cease fire to repair targets. My rifle had a loaded barrel and I asked permission to fire it to clear the barrel. The RO told me to “just blow the powder out of the pan and it’ll be safe”. Reluctantly, I did that but I put the rifle into a rest and kept the muzzle pointed down range.

When the range was called “hot” again, I adjusted the flint and tightened it in, then tested the flint with no powder in the pan - and it fired!

I was astounded that a flintlock could fire with zero priming in the pan - but luckily, I had the rifle in the safe direction and I only had to change underwear.


4 posted on 08/17/2017 9:42:57 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

A well made flintlock will often fire without powder in the pan.


5 posted on 08/17/2017 9:56:03 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Chainmail

ALWAYS follow gun safey rules.

The first time you “clear” your rifle and find it loaded you will never forget the experience.

I did it once, to find I had a round in the chamber and ready to fire... Scared the crap out of me.

My roommate in the service shot a round into the clearing barrel. He AND the guy who supposedly looked into the chamber both got their asses chewed out.

But I always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction, finger off the trigger, and the clearing procedure is your final check just to find this type of screwup.


6 posted on 08/17/2017 10:06:40 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: Reno89519

Which Sig ?


7 posted on 08/17/2017 10:10:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: wrench

First time I’d ever heard of it. Guess the good news is that I have a “well-made flintlock”.


8 posted on 08/17/2017 10:10:29 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Mr. K

Any time I pick up a weapon, I clear it. It’s just a habit.


9 posted on 08/17/2017 10:12:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: w1n1

Serious defect.


10 posted on 08/17/2017 10:18:41 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: G Larry

An A-Bolt?
I have one which functions flawlessly.

Purchased new in 1999.


11 posted on 08/17/2017 10:19:53 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mr. K

“The first time you “clear” your rifle and find it loaded you will never forget the experience.”

I once had an “accidental fire” with a .357 pistol...indoors.

It was one of the most shocking experiences of my life. Went through the wall, bounced off the pavement, off the steel bumper of my neighbors truck and landed in a tree in front of the house across the street.

Nobody hurt except my EARS and my ego.

My first and only.


12 posted on 08/17/2017 10:24:14 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Chainmail
When the range was called “hot” again, I adjusted the flint and tightened it in, then tested the flint with no powder in the pan - and it fired!

Oh, yes, it can. All it takes is for a spark to hit just right and bounce into the fire hole. Powder from the bore can also leak into the pan. the FFFg powder is small enough to go into the hole. The FFFFg powder for the pan is just there to increase chances of firing.

13 posted on 08/17/2017 11:08:51 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: wrench; Chainmail
When you buy an old percussion or flintlock gun, don't assume it's not loaded. I always recommend using the ramrod to check if there's something in the barrel. I bought an antique percussion pistol last year and as is my usual practice followed my own advice. I checked the length of the ramrod (important) on the outside of the barrel, and then put it down the bore. It failed to reach the end of the bore by an inch and a quarter or so. There's something down there. Most likely a ball and a powder charge still in it since it was last fired perhaps 150 years or so ago.

Black Powder can be very volatile, or it can, if it has gotten wet over the years, completely deteriorated. Need I say DON'T LOOK DOWN THE BARREL OF AN OLD GUN TO TRY AND SEE WHAT'S IN IT?

I got an old screw type bullet puller and, sure enough, there was an old lead ball, a greasy patch, and a powder charge.

I could have tried to unload the gun by firing it, but I had no guarantee that who ever had loaded it did not load it with a charge of smokeless powder which could destroy the gun and possibly injure me.

IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO UNLOAD AN OLD PERCUSSION OR FLINTLOCK GUN BY FIRING IT IF YOU DID NOT LOAD YOURSELF. . . You can't know what it was loaded with.

14 posted on 08/17/2017 11:24:24 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
All Sig Sauer P320. Here: https://www.sigsauer.com/support/p320-voluntary-upgrade-program/
15 posted on 08/17/2017 11:48:09 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Reno89519

I have the P-238.


16 posted on 08/17/2017 11:52:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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