Kimmie, you're a bad man, a very bad man!
Posted on 08/08/2017 2:19:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
MANILA, Philippines (NBC News) – The United Nations Security Council has voted unanimously to tighten sanctions in response to recent tests of North Korean missiles capable of reaching U.S. cities.
“This is the most stringent set of sanctions on any country in a generation,” United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley said of the vote.
North Korea, meanwhile, has angrily warned of “thousands fold revenge” against the U.S. if any military action is taken.
The North said Monday that it will take an unspecified “resolute action of justice” and will never place its nuclear program on the negotiating table as long as U.S. hostility against Pyongyang persists.....
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Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
I’m thinking of all those regimes that fell because of sanctions... (crickets).
The Russians and China are going to prop up Kim regardless of any sanctions. The Russians especially have no history of keeping agreements.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
I don’t need to be taught a resson.
Tell us what part of the continental US they were exploded over, and how much the power grid was computerized at the time?
Kimmie, you're a bad man, a very bad man!
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>> “We used to explode nukes in space, and they never collapsed our electricity grid.” <<
Correct, and they also were ignited on towers in Nevada.
But it is theoretically possible to design a weapon specifically for long wavelength pulses that might be different.
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You can’t fight sleep but, you want to fight us?
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>> “HALF the U.S. population lives in the area in blue and they voted for Obama/Hillary.” <<
I’ve been testing that theory with everyone that I converse with, and I am just not finding that many Hillaryites out there.
The ones there are do tend to be extremely vocal.
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I’ll see your Portland, and raise you a Seattle.
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There were a lot of tests, and I don't know if any of them were over the continental United States, but this one was near Hawaii, only 50 miles above the surface of the Earth, and had a blast power of 3.8 megatons. (North Korea has barely got a 20 kiloton yield, and H-bombs are far harder to make work.)
It appears to have blown some fuses and circuit breakers in Hawaii, but not done much more damage than that.
As far as the computers go, they aren't likely to be more affected than the old electromechanical systems used in the late 1950s. The EMP is going to be a long wave pulse that will induce high voltages on long transmission lines. It won't have the energy necessary to get at the computers circuits directly.
Over voltage protection on high lines is a lot better now than it was in 1958.
Yes, and it didn't do much damage to the electric grid in those areas either.
But it is theoretically possible to design a weapon specifically for long wavelength pulses that might be different.
I'm not sure how that would work. I have been an amateur studying nuke bombs for decades, and it seems to me that it would pretty much have to be a question of how big the yield is. Maybe the Los Alamos wizards can figure an angle to increase the EM portion of the blast, but I certainly don't have a line on how they might do that other than by increasing the yield.
I'm inclined to think the EMP threat is much like the Y2K threat. A lot of hype and not so much threat.
During the sabre rattling of the Cuban missile crisis, both the US and USSR engaged in high altitude nuclear testing. A Soviet 300kt 'shot' was exploded at 290km near Dzhezkazgan. The EMP fused 570 km of overhead telephone line, started a fire that burned down a power plant, and shut down 1,000-km of shallow-buried power cables. High altitude nuclear explosions also damage and destroy satellites as they travel through belts of radiation cause by the explosions.
Of course scientists have been able to study the results of these explosions and are likely able to 'fine tune' the explosions to have the desired effect. Maybe nuclear EMP weapons are overrated, but I am not keen to find out through personal experience, especially in a Canadian winter!
That lone county in south central Kansas is the county I live in (Sedgwick). It couldn’t have gone for Hillary and Douglas county (Lawrence) didn’t. That’s BS.
Minor damage. 3.8 Megaton is also a very large bomb, and North Korea has nothing in that league.
Given that so much of our grid and electronics run on micro circuitry, these things would appear to be less robust in regards to EMPs, than 1962 Hawaii.
I do not believe that is true. Semiconductor circuits cannot take high voltage anyways, and so they are not directly connected to the grid. When their control systems are connected to the grid, they are expected to deal with surges, and it is quite likely they can take massive surges on the transmission lines without causing serious damage. Links will pop and overloads will engage.
The EMP fused 570 km of overhead telephone line, started a fire that burned down a power plant, and shut down 1,000-km of shallow-buried power cables.
The Soviets were always behind us in electrical engineering technology. I'm not surprised that they are less equipped to deal with surges than are we. They probably still are.
High altitude nuclear explosions also damage and destroy satellites as they travel through belts of radiation cause by the explosions.
Satellites of 1962. Satellites of today are much more hardened against radiation and EMP. It might still damage some of them, but not nearly so much as it would have back in 1962 when Satellite technology was in it's infancy.
Of course scientists have been able to study the results of these explosions and are likely able to 'fine tune' the explosions to have the desired effect.
I've been studying atomic bomb theory for decades, and I don't know how you would "fine tune" a bomb to make more energy as an EMP wave. It's pretty much a function of the bomb's yield. More powerful bombs make more powerful EM waves.
Maybe nuclear EMP weapons are overrated, but I am not keen to find out through personal experience, especially in a Canadian winter!
I think the claims are overrated, but I also think they are not nonsense. There is a real threat from A-bomb induced EMP, but I don't think it would disable us for months, more like days or weeks.
Our stuff is designed to handle direct lightning strikes, and if it can shunt lightning strikes to ground, I don't see how an EMP would likely be more powerful than that.
Overvoltages induced on the lines will pop links, and the surge arrestors will bypass most of the energy into the ground. Once a plasma path is created, the induced voltage will continuously sustain it until the source of power is dissipated. If the power is so strong that it will melt the lines, (something I greatly doubt) then when the lines burn in two, the surge will no longer be reaching the substations or generators.
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>> “I’m inclined to think the EMP threat is much like the Y2K threat. A lot of hype and not so much threat.” <<
I was fully on board with you on that until I read of one of Henry Gruver’s visions, where he saw the US reverting to pre-digital age aircraft to fight a war.
Henry is one of the very few truly Holy Spirit driven men we have, and his visions have a solid record of fulfillment, unlike the hundreds of charlatans out there.
We are truly fed a steady diet of BS, but truth is a rare commodity.
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Aircraft within range of an EMP will probably be knocked out of the sky. The control systems are not designed to be nearly so robust as those which handle millions of watts of power routinely.
Back in the 1970s, we made fun of a captured Soviet Mig for using vacuum tubes in all of it's communications and control systems, that is until someone pointed out that tubes will likely better survive an EM pulse from a Nuke.
Then we thought, "Those crafty Russians!"
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