Posted on 06/18/2017 6:56:09 PM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger
I’m a huge Star Trek fan and I hated this film as well.
On the other hand, the producers and studios all claim that audiences have ADD and won’t pay attention to nuance but I believe it is the filmmakers who suffer the ADD. The sausage-factory scriptwriting process in Hollyweird is also abysmal.
I have heard that Star Trek movies with the original cast didn't do well outside the US, because they were too slowly paced and had too much dialog. But that is also the reason why they were better than the rebooted series. Watching the Wrath of Khan now, what really stands out is how much time is spent developing the characters, so that when the plot gets going, it actually means something, to the characters and the audience. I could never imagine a modern movie spending screen time like this:
they saved the universe from the shakespeare-black by blasting rap music -— true story
Didn’t know that Nancy Pelosi’s face had stripes but after all the plastic surgery she had had, I suspect that the cracks got dirt in them.
Re the two creatures with the “rubber masks”. Look like a character from “The Outer Limits”, the original show, or Michael Moore and Oliver Stoned.
Chris Pine - re being half Jewish. I’d like to know which half (or is this a Solomonic question about a split personality).
As for the unity “We” factor. Can we ask, “If anyone we-we’s in space, do we really care”?
As for one poster saying you can’t trust a Vulcan, wrong. There was a Vulcan artillery unit in the U.S. Army, So. Vietnam, about 1967. I think the guys who got fire support didn’t give a damn if it came from Vulcans, Klingons, or Romulans, only that it was effective and killed the commie bastards.
The original Star Trek series and some of the movies had great intertwining themes in them that were way ahead of Hollywood’s moralizing but in an intelligent and entertaining way.
Gene Roddenberry, we salute you and miss your genius.
Live Long and Prosper in heaven!
When i saw the trailer my first thought was they made star trek into fast and furious, which i never liked.
Later i found the director of the movie directed fast and the furious movies.
Maybe because it seemed like they all had a ripping good time doing it for a change.
Quinto looks the part.
The initial movie reboot was good, but the second (Into Darkness) was a remake of Wrath of Khan with Kirk dying instead of Spock. With all the great stories in the Star Trek Universe why remake an earlier movie? The last movie (Beyond) was horrible. Remember the shock of the first time the Enterprise was destroyed? Now it has become routine. In Beyond, the Enterprise lasts about 10 minutes before its shredded and the rest of the movie takes place on a planet. Typically not good. The rest of the film quickly degenerates into a stunt and CGI fest like the awful Guardians of the Galaxy films. No thought, just endless chases and fight scenes. Too bad they have chosen to go down this path.
Innnnnnnteresssting......
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