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California’s single-payer plan costs $400 billion — twice the state’s entire budget
Vox ^ | May 22, 2017 | Dylan Scott

Posted on 05/22/2017 6:44:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

California is undertaking an ambitious bid to establish a single-payer health care system, and now its plan has a price tag: $400 billion a year.

The state legislature has been debating a plan this year to implement a government insurance program to cover all Californians, including those without legal status.

It’s a very generous proposal, as currently conceived. The state would pay for almost all of its residents’ medical expenses — inpatient, outpatient, emergency services, dental, vision, mental health, and nursing home care — under the plan, and Californians would not have any premiums, copays, or deductibles. Those sweeping benefits drive up costs.

The major test for any effort to create a single-payer health care system is how to pay for it. California now knows the math it’s contending with. The plan, according to the estimate by the state Senate’s Appropriations Committee, would cost twice as much as the entire state budget that Gov. Jerry Brown is proposing for the next fiscal year.

Lawmakers have been waiting for an estimate of the costs, which they received on Monday. Here is the bottom line, from the Los Angeles Times:

The analysis found that the proposal would require:

*A total cost of $400 billion per year to cover all healthcare and administrative costs.

*Of that, $200 billion of existing federal, state and local funds could be repurposed to go toward the single-payer system.

*The additional $200 billion would need to be raised from new taxes.

Lawmakers have not settled on a plan for paying for the new system, though the analysis released Monday noted a 15 percent payroll tax on employers would cover the increased costs.

Such a significant tax increase could prove politically troublesome, even if employers and employees would see reduced costs through the elimination of insurance premiums, which the Times reported range from $100 to $150 billion per year. Residents would also no longer have to pay most of their health care bills.

Polling on single-payer plans is notoriously fickle, but this February 2016 survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation demonstrates the dilemma California officials will now face:

Half of Americans said, in the abstract, that they would support single-payer. But 20 percent flipped and said they would oppose the idea if it meant many Americans would have to pay higher taxes. That’s nearly twice the percentage of people who flipped to say they would support such a plan because it would reduce insurance premiums and out-of-pocket health care costs.

Vermont is the most recent state to try (and fail) to create a single-payer health care system, as Vox’s Sarah Kliff documented. The state had begun developing its own proposal, to be pursued under an Obamacare waiver, but ultimately scuttled the plan in 2014 after seeing the concept’s cost estimates and the necessary tax increases.

Single-payer health care is increasingly popular in theory among Americans, as Republicans in Washington seek to roll back Obamacare. But the practical and political challenges highlighted by this California news are something that proponents will need to grapple with if they want it to become reality.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: california; singlepayer
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1 posted on 05/22/2017 6:44:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go for it Moonbeam


2 posted on 05/22/2017 6:46:41 PM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and that amount would be for starters. double it in 3 years.


3 posted on 05/22/2017 6:47:34 PM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: Doogle

Maybe BROWN can hit up Venezuela for a loan?


4 posted on 05/22/2017 6:48:35 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the estimate is 400b figure it will be 800b when more leaches arrive.


5 posted on 05/22/2017 6:49:23 PM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

living in a multi-decade long era of ever-growing, massive government debt, in a printed, fiat currency makes politicians very bold (and stupid).


6 posted on 05/22/2017 6:49:53 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “mental health” coverage will take up half of that.


7 posted on 05/22/2017 6:51:14 PM PDT by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The U.S. is on a slant, and anything loose ends up in California.


8 posted on 05/22/2017 6:51:18 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (A Irredeemable Deplorable Texan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doesn’t matter that it will cost more than the present state budget. We are under the control of people who think money just appears. They will bankrupt the state before they will give up their crazy ideas. They will squeeze every last penny out of a sick population. People deserve the government they get.


9 posted on 05/22/2017 6:52:19 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing is too much to spend in order to give our Illegal Alien Overlords the life that they wish to lead.

Just ask Jeb Bush.


10 posted on 05/22/2017 6:52:59 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And since they want to be a sanctuary state, how much of that would go to illegal aliens. No fed money to California!


11 posted on 05/22/2017 6:53:39 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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BFL


12 posted on 05/22/2017 6:53:49 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Willie Sutton went into robbing banks and Hillary Clinton went into politics)
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All they have to do is look at what happened in Massachusetts and factor in all the goodies in the California Plan and disaster is not even a strong enough word.

The only way to make it work is to loot Calpers and then what will happen. The kind of high taxes necessary to make it work will force business and high income out of California at a record pace. Even the Film industry may move back to Flagstaff, Arizona.

13 posted on 05/22/2017 6:55:39 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmm
How long does someone have to domicile in CA to claim all the goodies
Better yet spend money purchasing citizenship in a 3 rd world country and then just show up in California if you get seriously ill


14 posted on 05/22/2017 6:56:11 PM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So when has it ever stopped them before?


15 posted on 05/22/2017 6:56:16 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s their state tax going to be? 75%?


16 posted on 05/22/2017 7:00:37 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gov. Moonbeam can just get the extra $ required from the freeloader tax payers he dissed recently.


17 posted on 05/22/2017 7:02:46 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Edison, New Jersey, actually.


18 posted on 05/22/2017 7:04:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Mouton
"If the estimate is 400b figure it will be 800b when more leaches arrive."

And that's not even factoring in the free abortions and prophylactics!

19 posted on 05/22/2017 7:11:36 PM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When it’s free ... they will come and come and come and take and take and take and whine, moan and protest when it ends.


20 posted on 05/22/2017 7:15:08 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Dan Rather, a 60 Minutes Investigative Reporter for CBS, invented "Fake News"-fake but accurate.)
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