Posted on 05/22/2017 7:42:00 AM PDT by grundle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzgG4xVLux4
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I had cancer, a lot of good things came out of it, but I wouldn’t wish cancer on my worst enemy.
Agree with you completely!
Slavery happened. The results today are what they are, for better or worse.
I can only think that today’s Blacks or AAs still upset (enraged) over slavery is ONLY because of the poverty pimps and the modern day slave masters known as the Democrat Party and their accomplices in the media. There I go repeating myself.
Poverty pimps = Democrat Party = media = modern day slave masters.
This very unfunny guy is essentially saying the same thing Ali said: “Thank God I’m over here not there!”
My parents never would have met without WWII (from different countries, different continents). Doesn’t make WWII any less horrendous that there are millions of such “positive” stories. I’ve often wondered about how to regard owing my very existence (and the existence of millions of others) to something so horrible. Just the strange byways of history and genealogy....
quote-That is the only real impact of Islam on the founding of America.
Slavery.
One may have to go back much further than Islam for the impact of slavery on the founding of america..
slavery of ‘africans’ in a nation called ‘america’( some have broken that word down to mean ‘kingdom of heaven’) isn’t because of Islam.
One may want to look at the connection between Africa and the enslavement of Israel on that continent, to see why slavery and america are linked.
On one level, slavery in america of africans may be one big Legal equation that follows His laws of ‘sowing and reaping’.
He is Law and He does legal/justice work on nations/world levels at times we can’t see or discern.
very politically incorrect and it probably wouldn’t preach in too many places, either.
“Can’t watch the video now but I’m black and I only see it as a good consequence of a great evil. However glad I am at being an American through in no way decreases the evil of slavery.
I met a 15yo kid whos parents met as a result of 9/11. She wouldn’t be here without it but it doesn’t excuse the evil that happened that day.”
One of my uncles worked for the Dept. of Agriculture until his recent retirement. One of his black co-workers, with whom he was very friendly, once remarked (after seeing a bunch of people get off of the plane from Nigeria, with all kinds of disgusting food that had to be seized and destroyed), “I’ll kill you if you say anything to anyone else here, but after looking at these people and what they eat, I’m glad that my ancestors were slaves.”
I, myself, am Jewish. I recognize that without the Holocaust having occurred, there would not have been an Israel. There are also lots of children and grandchildren of survivors who met during or after the war, and they would never have existed but for what their parents or grandparents went through.
Again, there is no excuse for evil - none, EVER - but some good does usually come from it.
As Joseph famously said to his 9 brethren: “But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.” Gen 50:20
I came to this thread to post just that. And you did it succinctly. Nice.
My ancestors came to America (Long Island) before 1686. We have a complete genealogy of my direct line and find no evidence of them ever owning slaves.
Having said that, I would not feel the least bit responsible or shameful for something that happened over 150 years ago and was LEGAL at the time.
I didn’t own slaves, my father didn’t own slaves, my grandfather didn’t own slaves, my great grandfather didn’t own slaves, my great, great grandfather didn’t own slaves, and my great, great, great grandfather didn’t own slaves, NOR COULD THEY because of the The Thirteenth Amendment.
Why should I feel guilty about what my great, great, great, great grandfather could have done?
RIDICULOUS! Slavery is in the distant PAST. GET OVER IT!
If (Blacks AAs) insist on being outraged about an abhorrent action... what about all the Black, AA, babies being MURDERED (aborted) TODAY?
Forget about ancestors, I was 24 years old in 1973. Since Roe v Wade 1973, over Nineteen MILLION, that’s 19,000,000 Black/AA babies have been MURDERED. Not living in slavery, but DEAD!!!!
How many Black/AA youths have been KILLED since then? Not by police but by OTHER BLACKs/AAs.
WAKE UP! You are being “punked” by the Demon-crats. Forget about slavery and protect your babies and youth TODAY and tomorrow, and from now on.
Invest your hostilities in something that ACTUALLY MATTERS.
If your ancestors weren’t sent West, they might have gone East into the Arab slave markets. And what they did to those people, it is doubtful that there would have been an ancestoral history for you.
Some tribe captured his ancestors then sold them to whoever came along.
He was lucky as they could have been killed or ended up in many other countries.
Whatever your background you are responsible for your present and future circumstances.
I think the last slave we had was Prince who had to write slave on his face to protest the horrible conditions of making $100 million and more playing music. The record company should have given him 40 acres and a mule : )
Years and years ago I read an article in Argosy Magazine about a black writer who went into Africa to return to his ‘roots’. He was appalled by the way tribal members treated people of the same tribe. He was appalled by these same tribal member hoarding the wells (that were drilled by UN or US) to sell to the military. What REALLY kicked him in the nuts was the celebration one morning that he was taken to at a river. The river was choked up like a dam with bodies from upstream who were killed from another tribe and thrown in. The one thing I can quote was his ending statement “ If Great Granpa is listening, thank God he was shipped to America as a slave”. Muhammed Ali (Cassius Clay) said much the same after visiting Africa.
All of the Confederate monuments are being removed. The Civil War never happened. Therefore, slavery never happened.
My Dad too. He was a Marine and after barely surviving Okinawa his unit was training for the invasion of Japan. He once told
me he and his budddies knew they would die there. Not suspected, not feared, they knew.
Yep, all of owe happenstance to being here, to our parents meeting in the first place.
My parents met in part due to upheavals and movements of peoples stemming from World War II.
They were not from the same hometown, and met in a different state than they were born and raised in.
All of us can find similar situations in our own families.
All of us of European extraction can thank God that our ancestors got on the boat to come to America. To paraphrase Muhammad Ali, he thanked God that his granddaddy got on the boat even though it was a slave ship.
Reminds me, I once read a Dear Abby column, in which an embarrassed woman wrote in, and said she met her boyfriend at the Rodney King riots. And she was embarrassed to tell people how they met.
Everyone has a story.
The first Africans arrived at Jamestown Colony in October of 1619. They were from a Portuguese ship that had been blown off course in a storm. They were not slaves. They were treated as indentured servants just like many folks coming to the New World from Europe. You worked for seven years to pay off your indenture and then you were free.
The first known African to be enslaved in what was to become the United States was a man named John Punch. He had run away from Jamestown with two white indentured servants. Punch and the other men were found in Maryland and returned to Jamestown. The white men were sentenced to an additional four year term as an indentured servants. Punch was sentenced to indentured servitude for life, most likely because he was not a Christian.
July 9, 1640:
“Whereas Hugh Gwyn hath by order from this Board brought back from Maryland three servants formerly run away from the said Gwyn, the court doth therefore order that the said three servants shall receive the punishment of whipping and have thirty stripes apiece. One called Victor, a Dutchman, the other a Scotchman called James Gregory, shall first serve out their times with their master according to their Indentures, and one whole year apiece after the time of their service is expired by their said indentures in recompense of his loss sustained by their absence, and after that service to their said master is expired, to serve the colony for three whole years apiece. And that the third being a negro named John Punch shall serve his said master or his assigns for the time of his natural life here or elsewhere.”
About twenty years later in the 166’s the Virginia Colony legislature passed laws requiring lifetime servitude for all black Africans in the Colony. Before that time there were a few free blacks who also held indentures on other blacks.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Punch_(slave)
However there was slavery in ancient Greece and Rome millennia before Islam was founded.
This headline lacks context, he’s saying that he appreciates slavery for that reason.
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