There has been a lot of buzz on the internet lately about the reliability of a 1911 platform as a self defense pistol. Posted on 03/15/2017 4:59:37 AM PDT by w1n1
There has been a lot of buzz on the internet lately about the reliability of a 1911 platform as a self defense pistol.
For a quick torture test DRF (DownRange Firearms) Training took a Sig Sauer 1911 and my personal Glock 19, buried them in the dirt, actions open, cleared the dirt and debris from the guns and proceeded to fire the guns testing their reliability.
Results
The Glock performed flawlessly, the 1911, as expected, failed miserably. Glocks shot off all 15 rounds where the Sig only came up with 2 shots fired. We had fun with this one and hope you guys enjoy it!
DRFTraining used factory fresh Remington UMC 230gr .45 and Federal 115gr 9mm, no hand loads.
For anyone who wants to know EXACTLY what happened to the 1911…To clean it we had to strip it down to the empty frame.
Dirt was located in the sear,trigger, grip safety, mag release, hammer and there was a pebble jammed under the leaf spring. See the Glock19 vs Sig1911 footage here.
You can make anything fail. When these two pistols are tested in real world environment the results are more real worldly.
The Glock performed flawlessly, the 1911, as expected, failed miserably
Thats where I ended reading
These articles are pointless. Oh wait... Remind me to bury my pistols with actions open before I jump off a 93 story building.
So when buried alive, make sure you have a Glock. Got it.
And the Army did not choose the 1911 for its new pistol. Glock? nope.
Must have been the answer to writers block to come up with an article in the Shooters Journal.
The Army chose a Glock clone in the Sig 320.
There is no place in the modern world for firearms discrimination, diversity is strength!
The problem is, with any kind of decent firearm - and there are a lot of manufacturers and designs that meet that bar - a well maintained example will work basically flawlessly through the few hundred rounds (or less) that fit within the attention span and budget of most of these internet "reviewers." In order to show any kind of difference in performance the "testers" have to come up with all kinds of contrived circumstances.
My firearms have no modifications to their basic mechanisms. I practice with, maintain, and clean them regularly. They all work, Glock, S&W, Mossberg, Ruger, Winchester... But saying "Well gosh, they both work just fine." doesn't bring viewers to your channel or hits on your website.
Repeat at least ten times, with at least three samples of each firearm, then call us again...
As a professional researcher, I love it how the “one trial wonders prove everything beyond doubt”.
That said, I have Glocks and 1911s. I prefer the Glock for daily carry about the farm and shop and river and lake and... but if I were knowingly going to a gun fight and could only chose a handgun ( of course, if given any choice, it would be a B2 delivered JDAM applied from the next mountain top over), it would be the 1911.
Seals switched to Glock 19 recently, I think.
Well the one thing about this video that stands out.....black guns matter!
No. But they chose a polymer-framed, striker-fired pistol.
The Army wanted a SIG P320. The specs were written for a nonsensically modular general purpose handgun, and it’s clear they use the SIG P320 as the specification.
I’ll be the first to say that 1911 reliability is shit compared to the Glock 19. But one test, with one magazine isn’t the way to prove it.
PLUS 1!
A 1911 tuned for accuracy does not tolerate dirt, everyone already knew that.
My son-in-law came in the other day with the HK 9mm with a green lazer and strobe dazzler mounted on it. Talk about a warm fuzzy!
The 226 is the only pistol thats ever felt better going off and recoiling in my hand than the 1911 or my Hi-Power. It will be my next toy.
Both are fine pistols and this toture test was designed to make the 1911 fail. I would suggest a new test. Put both pistols in an oven at 500 degrees for an hour and let them cool down. The 1911 will go bang. The Glock will be mostly melted due to its polymer frame.
As mentioned both are fine weapons and the torture test was crap.
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