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“Somebody Else’s Babies”
IWB ^ | Gabrielle Seunagal

Posted on 03/13/2017 2:37:31 PM PDT by davikkm

Iowa Republican, Steve King attracted criticism after posting a tweet which read the following: “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies.” The statement is open ended, mildly confusing, and leaves a plethora of room for interpretation. King would have done well to clarify exactly what people he believes falls into the category of ‘somebody else’s babies.’ People who fall under the category of immigrants appears as the most likely match for ‘somebody else’s babies.’ Nonetheless, King’s tweet was in response to a Dutch parliamentarian who aspires to close all Mosques and ban the Quran.

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1 posted on 03/13/2017 2:37:31 PM PDT by davikkm
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To: davikkm

We also can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s adults.


2 posted on 03/13/2017 2:39:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both)
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To: davikkm

People who fall under the category of immigrants appears as the most likely match for ‘somebody else’s babies.’

Another writer that FAILED Civics, Immigrants usually KEEP their children and raise them, he was talking about ILLEGAL ALIENS.

GO BACK TO SCHOOL and learn something before writing tripe like this Gabrielle.


3 posted on 03/13/2017 2:40:59 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: davikkm

“We can’t restore our civilization with people who are not civilized.”......Red Badger...............


4 posted on 03/13/2017 2:43:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: Red Badger

Exactly!

Muslims are a prime example thereof.


5 posted on 03/13/2017 2:44:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both)
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To: davikkm
Nonetheless, King’s tweet was in response to a Dutch parliamentarian who aspires to close all Mosques and ban the Quran.

Aspiring to close all Mosques and ban the Quran globally is truly a lofty aspiration. Doing it merely in the Netherlands is just common sense.

6 posted on 03/13/2017 2:44:54 PM PDT by PGR88 (The)
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To: davikkm

It is actually pretty obvious, if you pay attention.

The fertility rate in the US of US citizens has dropped well below replacement rate. All of our population growth comes from immigration, legal or otherwise, and their fertility rate is much higher than that of US citizens. Hence “...somebody else’s babies.”


7 posted on 03/13/2017 2:57:17 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: davikkm

Everyone needs to read the oath that immigrants take to become citizens. Then look at the immigrants that took such an oath and get rid of everyone that does not abide by it. AMERICA IS ACTUALLY BEING destroyed by this P C crowd. SO be it I have lived my life but I will leave loved ones behind that will pay for our ignorance.


8 posted on 03/13/2017 2:58:22 PM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: davikkm

Everyone needs to read the oath that immigrants take to become citizens. Then look at the immigrants that took such an oath and get rid of everyone that does not abide by it. AMERICA IS ACTUALLY BEING destroyed by this P C crowd. SO be it I have lived my life but I will leave loved ones behind that will pay for our ignorance.


9 posted on 03/13/2017 2:58:23 PM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: davikkm

Everyone needs to read the oath that immigrants take to become citizens. Then look at the immigrants that took such an oath and get rid of everyone that does not abide by it. AMERICA IS ACTUALLY BEING destroyed by this P C crowd. SO be it I have lived my life but I will leave loved ones behind that will pay for our ignorance.


10 posted on 03/13/2017 2:58:36 PM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: davikkm
Daniel Greenfield's essay - just posted a little while ago is the perfect reply: Know Your Military Colonists Daniel Greenfield

“Military Colonist” is a term that has gone out of fashion in this brave new world of “No Human Being is Illegal” and “Every Refugee Deserves to be Resettled.”

The university history professor with an office full of fake Indian jewelry and a view of the parking lot will lecture on the military colonies of the Roman period, always careful to emphasize their eventual fate. And he may even get up to the 16th century. But he’ll stay away from the present.

But if you are going to take land or seize power, you will need military colonists to hold it. The military colonist may be an ex-soldier, but he’s more likely to be someone the empire, present or future, doesn’t particularly need or have a use for. The Czars used serfs. The present day military colonist who shows up at JFK or LAX may also be a peasant with even less value to his culture.

Mexico’s military colonists are not military. Often they aren’t even Mexican. But they have managed to take back California without firing a shot. Unless you count the occasional drive by shooting.

While the United States sent tens of thousands of soldiers to try and hold Iraq and Afghanistan only to fail, Mexico took California with a small army of underpaid handymen who claim entire cities and send back some 20 billion dollars a year. As conquests go, it’s not hard to see who did more with less.

In 2009, 417 Mexican migrants died trying to reach America, and 317 American soldiers died in Afghanistan. But Mexico has more to show for it than America does. Every Mexican who settles across the border is a net gain who sends back money and spreads political influence. Meanwhile America is spending trillions on a much smaller army in a country whose land no one actually wants.

In 2009, the year Obama approved a 30,000 man troop surge, 3,195 Afghans received permanent legal status in the United States.

In the decade since the US invaded Afghanistan, 24,710 Afghans successfully invaded the United States and received permanent legal status. That is an occupying force larger than US troop numbers were at any point in time in Afghanistan until the very end of George W. Bush’s second term.

During this same period there were also 19,000 Afghan non-immigrant admissions. As invasions go, the Afghan invasion of America was far more successful than the American invasion of Afghanistan.

That is even more true when you consider birth rates. Military colonists are not a mere invading army. They are generational footholds.

The American birth rate was at 13.5. The Afghan birth rate was at 37.3 at the time. American soldiers go home when their time is up. Sometimes they come home with a Muslim wife after converting to marry her. Afghan immigrants come with a birth rate that is nearly three times that of the country they are invading.

Across the ocean, the Algerian War is still going strong and France is losing badly. There are fewer bombs and bullets. Only men and women showing up and expecting to be taken care of. An army of millions could not have landed in France and begun pillaging the countryside. Not unless they came as immigrants. If you are going to invade a Socialist country, the best way to do it is as a charity case.

Unfortunately that holds true for us as well.

The military colonists flooding our shores are part of an unacknowledged partnership between their political leaders and ours. Their political leaders are fighting a war to redress the wrongs of centuries or millennia. Our political leaders are looking to shift the voting balances in a ward or a district for the next election. When they resettle the next shipment of Afghans in an otherwise conservative area with a view to tilting the electoral balance, they are using them as military colonists for the short term while their homelands use them as military colonists in the long term.

War is about controlling land, resources and populations. Land just sits there. It’s the populations that cause the trouble. The military colonist makes a more enduring occupation possible by settling the land and giving the conquering power a deeper foothold in the enemy territory.

There was a time when American settlers acted as military colonists holding down lands in Florida and Texas. Today America is being colonized by the settlers of other nations and ideologies. And we will find ourselves in the same position as the Spanish did in Florida and the Mexicans did in Texas.

Texans Rebel Against Mexico at The Alamo

Mexico invited American settlers to move in to Texas on the understanding that they would learn Spanish and otherwise fit in. Instead language and culture proved to be stronger than land and oaths of citizenship. Many of the Texas settlers might not have had much use for the United States at the time, but creed and culture made them American military colonists whether they knew it or not. The same holds true for the present state of affairs there today.

It’s more than just cultural or ethnic differences that make one a military colonist. It’s a cause. Whether it’s Manifest Destiny or the Reconquista or the Caliphate. Underlying it all is that sense of destiny. The power of an exceptionalism that makes it impossible for the settler to sink in and abandon his roots and beliefs to the tidal pull of a new culture when his grudge against it is more than the mere personal dissatisfaction of the new immigrant or his children caught between two worlds.

Integration is hopeless in the face of that sense of destiny. European nations struggling to defend some notion of secular space misunderstand the problem as one of extremism. Some of the more visible terror attacks may indeed be associated with what can be described as extremism in the sense that its participants are willing to push the envelope harder and further in more violent ways.

But Islamic terrorism is only the foam on the surface. It’s the bubbles at the edge of the pot. A minor symptom of a much bigger problem. It’s simply the most violent expression of a widely shared belief that Islamic law is superior to Western law. Most peoples feel that their ways and customs are best. It doesn’t become a problem until they become the majority and won’t take no for an answer.

American liberalism and European republicanism have no answers to Islamic terrorism. Their embrace of the Arab Spring was motivated by the need to believe that the Muslim world was ready to “advance” to the same postmodern level of existence, eliminating the need to worry about women in burkas or Al Qaeda. The same misreading of the power of tribe and religion that led to the foolish belief that Saudi Arabia’s military colonists could safely be turned into Labour voters led to the Arab Spring’s equally misplaced confidence that the Muslim Brotherhood wanted to be just like Europe.

It isn’t only a tiny minority of extremists who believe that Islamic values are superior to Western values and who would like the law to recognize that assumption. It’s a tiny minority of extremists who try to prove their devoutness by jumping the gun and killing people over it before the full demographic impact of the military colonists would make a burka ban into the next Syrian Civil War.

Think of two armies maneuvering into position. The extremist is the one who fires before the enemy is fully in range ruining the strategic effect of the surprise attack. Trying to understand the extremist not only misses the point, it misses the whole chain of events in motion. The schemes for integrating the disgruntled youth and countering violent extremism is symptom control.

Terrorism is an early warning in the clash of civilizations and all our leaders can think to do is hold a meeting with the heads of the opposing army asking them to get their hotheads to stop shooting at us because it’s bringing our civilizations into conflict. Our civilizations are in conflict and have been as far back as they have both existed. The occasional plane hijacker is the first snowflake of a winter storm. Instead of preparing for a storm, we’re trying to figure out how to stop snowflakes.

The conflict is primal. It isn’t about American foreign policy or War X or Country Y or Cause Z. These are all “arguments” that explain the conflict once it’s already under way. It’s simpler than that. It’s about the incompatibility of cultures, religions, political and economic systems. And it’s about countries with a lot of oil and not much else trying to buy their way to an empire by using their own impoverished brethren as cannon fodder. And finally it’s about what happens when birth rates fall.

Western countries have achieved individual comforts with an unsustainable system. This unsustainability is both economic and demographic as budgets and children are both lacking. Meanwhile the countries and cultures that have failed have achieved a perfectly sustainable state of misery. They may not have much income, but they also don’t have much to eat. They may have high infant mortality rates, but they have even higher childbirth rates.

America of 2013 cannot go on being this way indefinitely. It probably can’t even manage another two decades without major changes of some kind. Afghanistan 2013 however can go on being the way it is indefinitely. And that sustainability is what makes its people effective military colonists. Living the Afghan lifestyle in London or Los Angeles is even sustainable because food and housing are free.

That just leaves large packs of nomadic youths roaming the streets, selling drugs and rioting at the slightest provocation until it’s time for them to get married and make more nomadic youths of their own. It’s not that different from Afghanistan. It’s the tribal life transplanted to the West. It’s a culture with no real purpose except to produce young males eager to fight and expand tribal power and a religion with no real purpose except to affirm that as a religious duty.

Islam embodies expansionism. Its directives of male violence and female subjugation have no other end. They protect the tribal imperatives of endogamy and violence, of inbreeding and the feud. It has no ideas except to get bigger and that makes its followers into ideal military colonists.

Daniel Greenfield is a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the David Horowitz Center. This appeared on his blog of September 18.

11 posted on 03/13/2017 2:59:12 PM PDT by wtd
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To: davikkm

“The statement is open ended, mildly confusing, and leaves a plethora of room for interpretation.”

Strange. I think the statement is very clear. It means you can’t preserve your civilization by importing people who despise the civilization you have built.


12 posted on 03/13/2017 3:02:56 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Little Ray

The fertility rate of Muslims everywhere is notoriously prodigious. Anyone who denies it is both a liar and an idiot. Further, they’re not interested in integration but colonization.
Someone needs to prove that King said anything wrong


13 posted on 03/13/2017 3:08:38 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: Little Ray

If immigrants are citizens, then they are not “somebody else’s babies”.


14 posted on 03/13/2017 3:32:55 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: davikkm

Nothing confusing about his statement. The worst are outbreeding the best.


15 posted on 03/13/2017 3:46:16 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: BenLurkin

When one birth rate is seven times the other birthrate which is below population sustainability, there is a very big future demographic shift. Once a Muslim percentage hits 10%, the country has sustained irreversible colonization. France is all but finished followed by Germany and England. The USA seems hellbent on committing this cultural suicide.


16 posted on 03/13/2017 3:56:59 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: davikkm

He’s right, you know.


17 posted on 03/13/2017 3:58:58 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan: http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: Lorianne

I suppose his statement begs the question whether western civilization can really be sustained without western man. Radioactively non-PC, but that seems to be what he’s getting at. Same issue facing the European homelands. Looking at how assimilation has been cast aside in favor of multiculturalism, immigrants largely are “someone else’s babies” in both the literal ethnic sense and in terms of cultural heritage.


18 posted on 03/13/2017 4:00:53 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Government employees and welfare recipients are both net tax consumers. Often for life.)
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To: davikkm

Good for Mr King. About time! And absolutely right.


19 posted on 03/13/2017 4:53:55 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: shanover

America has been invaded. When does the shooting start?

Unlike Europeans, we have guns, the right to bear them AND the right of self defense using deadly force if necessary.

Each of us must be ready to open fire and cut flesh.

So, what the hell’s the matter with us? What are we waiting for?


20 posted on 03/13/2017 5:04:58 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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